Were you invested in either or both to have the experience to make these claims? At this point, Genesis recovered from their issue and are paying out/growing from their breach. They haven't been perfect, but they're a young company in a crazy industry where many people are fueled by greed and there are lots of thieves. I'm not thrilled with Genesis' service lately, but they have delivered their payouts. Companies are entitled to face challenges and grow before being called scams without proper backing. Genesis' BTC mining contracts just sold out. They have multiple videos of decent looking people proudly displaying some of their larger mining facilities in Iceland. If you're a customer and haven't received payouts, then you have a valid case. Bitconnect has been down for 5-6 hours and you're claiming to know the truth. Perhaps we should give them a fair chance to respond to any issue and get back to business as usual (or not if it is a scam). Comments like yours don't really help the community in my opinion. Just spread fear and negativity without the proper basis, while trying to self-promote.