Warning: Ben Schwartz is a Scammer who owes me 2600 SBD

in #abuse6 years ago (edited)

In this post, I'm going to share with you important information regarding a dangerous and manipulative Scammer:

Ben Schwartz aka @getslothyy aka @fatpandadesign aka @unmentionable who has scammed his way to over 10k USD from different steem users - including myself with over 6000 USD

@neoxian has created a post as well. I urge everyone to read it: Scam warning: @fatpandadesign = @getslothyy = Ben Schwartz

Ben Schwartz has also stolen over 3500 USD from a woman named Mariza Monteiro - who made a video explaining her story:

God only knows how many more people he has scammed who are not known yet.

What happened?

To make a long story shorter:

I got in contact with @getslothyy (Ben Schwartz) a few months back, who seemed like a trustworthy and hard working guy - in addition with his engagement to his group, @gamersunited.

We talked, laughed and slowly he gained some of my trust.

After a while, he told me about his buddy who was trading sucessfully for a year+ and asked me for some SBD to finance his own trading based on his calls.

Everything started somewhat small with a loan of about 100 SBD, where I should get back roughly 120 SBD.

And I actually got it back - so he asked for more and also insured me that in the case of loss while trading - the money would be backed by his own Fiat.

Phase 1: Persuasion

Everything started with 100 SBD and then got step by step higher due to messages as above.

I had an extremely unpleasant feeling when I send him the last 1000 SBD - but I didn't listen to that feelings (shame on me)

Honestly - this is not easy for me to write - since I got manipulated hard. But I've learned my lesson!

Phase 2: Sister got cancer

After a day when I asked how it was going - this happened..

His sister got cancer and he needed to use his FIAT which was supposed to back my investment for her treatment ..


You can probably imagine how nervous I was at that point.

Phase 3: Buddy scammed him - SBD lost

And to top things off - suddenly his buddy, he knew for years and traded with - vanished on him.


So - at this point the facts were:

1.) Sister got cancer - lost a trade due to that and had to use all available Fiat to send his sister for treatment.
2.) Slothyy traded with his buddy on his buddy account and his buddy then somehow scammed him.


I didn't believe it

You know - I might be kind and trustworthy but I'm def. not stupid and those facts above, stank .. of lies.

So I dug deep and researched a bit.

Slothyy said that his buddy had a OKCash Wallet where the funds went.


So I looked at that wallet (https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ok/address.dws?PL9Pp258dsoYV68zYGKjvyvkSxC5koVmJH.htm) and something was strange..

I send him another another 100 SBD at that point a day ago - because I still cared for his well being and he lied to me about having no food and no money to push his posts with. Now - the strange thing was the following:

Right after slothyy send the 100 SBD to Bitrex - a very similar amount converted to OkCash was suddenly on the OkCash Wallet.

After a day thinking - this was enough proof for me, that the wallet didn't belong to his buddy - but to slothyy!

So I confronted him ..

Gambled the money away

And it turns out that he gambled the money away with a discord bot called @OkBets - the OkCash Wallet was that of the bot.

So at that point I was pretty upset.

For once that I lost a huge amount of money - a lot more than I ever cashed out from Steem (I'm still hodling strong) but even worse was the fact that my humanity got played.

I didn't lend him money for the sake of myself earning more money (it was a nice sideeffect tho'), but because I wanted to help him earn a bit of money with which he could boost his community ... and the only thing I got were lies over lies.

And then?

After I confronted him and told @neoxian and @reggaemuffin about it - who were both scammed as well; slothyys owner key was then changed by @neoxian as he made a loan contract with him and as colateral slothyy gave his owner key.

After talking with slothyy, neoxian made a deal with slothyy that he could keep posting so he could pay us back in the future.

Now - this also worked for about a day or two, but then his posts stopped and quickly afterwards - he tried to regain access to his account by using the account recovery function through @anonsteem.

Luckily, I already contacted @anonsteem and told about the fact that @getslothyy scammed people and shouldn't regain access.

Now

I initially wrote this post few weeks ago, but didn't release it as we had a Meditation about getslothyy with a few high-ranking Steemians.

The outcome of the Meditation was that Ben Schwartz (getslothyy) would pay Neoxian, Reggeamuffin and me 10$ back every week until amounts were all paid up.

But as you might have guessed already:

He rather scams more money from other people and sends it to bittrex instead of paying back people he owns a lot of money.

And honestly:

I don't believe that he gambled all the money away.

At this point, everything he says has to be treated as lies.

Goals for this Post

The most important goal with this post is to bring awareness to Ben Schwartz so others aren't making the mistake of trusting him.

Ben Schwartz is an manipluative liar who can not (under any circumstances) be trusted!

But this post is also a way to help scammed users.

So far - the scammed users are as follow:

Chance is high that there are more Steemians (or even outside users) that got scammed.

In that case: please comment under this post and we will try to help you to regain some (or hopefully all) of your lost funds.

Additionally, I will contact Mariza Monteiro to confirm that she actually got scammed (and that this is not just a stunt) and if everything is as she says it is - help her to recover some of her 3500 USD (4.5 Ethereum).

You can help!

To help us with these goals, please upvote and resteem the post.

The Author-Rewards are getting used to cover the losses.

Thank you!

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I was duped into thinking I was a friend and I even invited Ben to stay with me in the UK, luckily he was detained at passport control and sent back to Portugal (just after SteemFest last year). Even visited him in the immigration detention centre.

He eventually got back to the US, cos his mom felt sorry for him and got him a ticket home in time for Thanksgiving. Now in Mexico eh?

So yeah, I was well and truly suckered in too. Fell for his sob stories though and came up with my own solutions, he didn't ask me as I wanted to help get back on his feet so bad and had the means to help.

One of those was to get him a cellphone on credit, as I have a buy now, pay in 12 months and I trusted him enough to 'know' that he would pay it back within the year.

Why?

His phone was 'stolen' when he had one of his seizures so he couldn't move forward with Pandacoin or his website business, as everything on his laptop that he needed to access was 2FA enabled, for which he needed a phone. So he could not earn anything to get him out of Portugal or get home to US. He was living in a hostel and he hated it.

We had written on discord most days from about Sept through to November and I considered him a friend. Even defended him to @neoxian when he first didn't make payment of his loan back.

Funny not heard from him in about 6 months now.

It is insane the lengths some people will go to. Krikey!!! What an absolute schmuck!

Its sad because he could have created something new and earned that money instead.
Steem is the blockchain of opportunity afterall.

exactly!!!

omg, i remember him saying that just the other day in palnet re: losing the lappy. lemme see if i can find it.

i have also gone through many losses in the past couple years. but i dont expect to be paid because i had a run of shit luck.

i just have to get back on the horse, so to speak, and try to rebuild from the losses.

Thinking about it, it was his phone he said he lost and he couldn't get onto to his laptop or any of his cryptocurrency accounts to get any money out to pay for anything or his debts, as it was all 2FA enabled. I will edit. The latest post from @getslothyy was about how he lost his laptop.

I remember having several run ins with him in the unmentionable group as I saw early on how he was using the bot to reward himself. It's unfortunate that he was able to silence me and kicked me out of the group before I was able to alert everyone. It is shitty that people like this exist and even shittier that he feels no remorse for duping people.

I hope @therealwolf is able to get his money back but I highly doubt it. I guess it is just a hard lesson learned. I hadn't followed up on Ben after he booted me out of the discord group, just saw that all the higher members left and created a new group because of suspicious activity.

This strikes me personally as I was ostracized and cut out of this group because he was good at manipulating people and playing on their emotions, whereas I just called it how it was. Hope this post gets some more visibility and more people come forward.

Shitty situation my friend, sorry to hear

This things seem really strange to me. So some folks are spammers on this platform... So unfair.

I didn't hear the rest of the story up to the point where he was sent back to Portugal. Now he's back in the states. Wonder what he's up to these days. Hopefully something honest. @ironshield

What a sad disappointment. You're a sweet person @hopehuggs.

Omg. I think they need to get him into some kind of treatment if he's like that. He needs a psychiatrist / psychologist or something to help him get rid of the scamming and lying.

Lauren Southern was detained and banned from the UK. I'm trying to say that good people are banned from countries in Europe. We can assume that if a person is detained, they are automatically bad and that may or may not be the case. But Ben is probably bad.

He was detained because he had no return ticket and no money and our stories didn't match when the immigration officer called me from Gatwick. I felt terrible at the time. But I agree, being detained doesn't necessarily mean being bad. I think all the other proof on that speaks for itself here.

But on the other hand, the borders are opened most of the time for people who are not even from those countries in Europe. Tommy Robinson and Faith Goldy and @Stefan.Molyneux and others talk about it in their videos and we can see it each day in so many videos and in the photos and they throw people in jail for talking about the no-go zones.

wow hard storys =s

I wish I lived closer to new mexico. I would break his knee for half what he owes you guys. That would be a nice pay day.

You got a 16.83% upvote from @minnowvotes courtesy of @doomsdaychassis!

Slothyy talked to me too. He was VERY eager when I told him I was going to get payed to work on a book. He ALMOST convinced me to give him the total sbd that would be given to me, 400sbd. But I didn't follow through with him after he failed to return 80sbd to me and other 20 I SO SO mistakenly lent him. He returned them once my emercencies where over. So I didn't much needed the sbd anymore. But he kept pushing me over and OVER again daily, for me to give him the sbd to "double" it on trades. There is probably more people. He also wanted me to do all the graphic work for his discord channel and "gamers united" for free.... And actually got VERY pissed off, when I didn't have the time to work on it because I was being hospitalized. :/ ... What a douche.

I'm very sorry for your experience! Does he still owe you SBD?

But the play between acting nice and pissed off - is exactly what he (and every manipulative piece of ..) does.

He does not owe me sbd. He owes me other crypto. I want to talk about this because he's claiming that I am a scammer and that my art does not belong to me. He's an ass. :/ And yes. He manipulated me quite a bit up to the point where I was depressed that I couldn't help him. :/

Benjamin Schwartz also goes by @psychsherpa on discord. He sold me his worthless PANDA coin for 0.46 Eth. I knew at the time I would never see it again, but he built trust and report with me and we did the exchange. Anyone want some Pandacoin? It even has a whitepaper. @ironshield

I dont mind some panda coins.

Do you have a bitshares account? What is your username? @ironshield

I'll take some PANDA coins, lol. I have some other shady coins to match them, like the Trailcoins. Want some of those? Bitshares name: haphazard-hstead

Padapandapanda coin! @ironshield

@ironshield! Will love to have some panda coins too

Bitshares username:- goldenprince10

ThanKs

😊

Hello gprince, i'd be happy to send some PANDA, but I do not have enough BTS to send any! If you can send me a small amount of BTS, I would have enough to send you 100 pandas

Thanks @ironshield, like how many BTS will be okay to send to u so that u can send the PANDA

Thank you for giving me the information and as soon as I will share it and it will be redeemed ... you are the best in this case, fraudsters do not deserve to be between us

thank you senior your information is very important, many steemians do not know about this. I have resteem this post for my followers ... thank you for writing this information ....!

Upvoted and resteemed ..
My vote is just small but like to help you all to recover ,Especially neoxian got many upvotes from him ..

Douchebag.

This is so sad to hear... You know, I feel sorry for this guy. I would never be able to live with myself if I ever did something like that. Never.

Lies about his sister and a terrible disease?

  • And for what?

To feed his own disease? - His gambling addiction?

This guy is the worst.

We don't even know what he does with the money... All we know, is that this wanker should get the fuck out of here!

I wouldn't have been too mad if part of the money was lost while trading. Because trading is risky and that's ok. But getting lied to like that .. makes you think!

It's really awful. 2600 USD, is about a month's salary in Sweden (40 hours of work per week). 2600 SBD is almost 2.5 times that, (at the time I'm writing this)... How on earth are you capable of pulling of a scam like that? I mean, normal people have feelings and emotions.

  • This guy has no soul at all.

He probably has a damaged brain or something making him feel no emotion/fear.

Sociopaths have different brains than normal people. If he's a psychopath there might be a be a better way to help him be a normal person maybe.

Trust me - I know how you feel. But that's normal for a good-person that you're not able to understand how one could do such a thing.

They take advantage of people's good nature, I just don't understand how low some people can go, what's wrong with these people!

Brain damage I think.

He also is a 'recovering' heroin addict, I suspect that might be where some of it goes. I love a rags to riches tale, but through honesty not scamming.

We have a different kind expression for a person like that here in SA but, I shall attempt to behave like a lady and keep my mouth shut haha... but yeah, truly sad and he will forever be the biggest loser.

I meet you here, I'm afraid I don't want to talk to you, I will miss you

Coming from Neoxian's post, and just read yours. This dude scares me so much! I don't consider myself to be naive, but he just strikes at people's weakness by building up his rep before striking! It's so scary and I know that I could fall as well if I hadn't read this.

So thanks for the warning, and I'll be taking care to recognise this scamming pattern if I ever see it again, which I'm sure I will in the rising cryptocurrency markets. :(

He is really dangerous in that sense, that he lies constantly and plays the poor-me-guy.

go visit him and break his face to pieces