Got Settled into my Hotel in Acapulco excited to meet and listen to some very interesting people

in #anarchapulco7 years ago

Hey everybody. I have made it down to Anarchapulco, super excited for the rest of the week and ideas. Wondering if I should head down to Princess Imperial tonight even, people hanging in the bar still I imagine???

Been relatively busy leading up to coming and so need to catch up on all the great comments from people. I hope the past few weeks have been going well for people. Being up in Ohio usually is a real bummer this time of year. Nice to be in a paradise. Very beautiful city. Will have to take and upload at least some pictures tomorrow. Hope to have some cool content for a vlog by the end of the week. Would love to interview anyone here to get more content!!

Excited to hear about voluntarism and realizing a free world not premised upon institutionalized state violence. I really enjoyed hearing Adam Kokesh speak when he passed through Columbus last fall and anticipate I will enjoy his presentations. Have already met some cool people on steem and not on steem traveling to get there. Wonder what tomorrow holds.

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I'm here too....awesome so far.

nice, hopefully we can grab a drink, im down the street not at princess unfortunately.

Wish I was there! Sounds like a great event with amazing speakers! I will keep an eye out for next years event! Let us know what you learn while you’re there! Thanks!

will do hope to post some videos soon, but may wait until getting back to edit.

united we stand

spam comment? why did you do it twice?

sorry by mistake

united we stand

interesante...

gracias por compartir

your comment could be on any post and is ambiguous that is why some poeple downvote your kind of comment.

lo tendré muy en cuenta para proximos saludos

Gracias por tu aporte!

without the state wouldn't violence just be more decentralized?

maybe, and what type of violence, and what kind of anarchy, i think things are little more nuanced than your comment implies.

we can see that in places with failed states where there is no government that violence is rampant and constant and unavoidable.

correct, and that is why voluntarists want a free society with sufficient specific deterrence to realize a sustainable culture of the Non Aggression Principle

sufficient specific deterrence to realize a sustainable culture

brainwashing? what are these deterrences specifically and how will they create a culture?

I mean first you would obviously have a police force, at least until people are angels, just the difference would be it is financed voluntarily without utilizing coercion. Second depends how you define brainwashing, i mean that one does not always have to use force, one can instill cultures like the golden rule, that when followed leads to nonviolence for the most part, so you can call that brainwashing perhaps, but if it is voluntarily assumed identity then perhaps it is not. but cultures may be able to make people angels.

I just don't get the means of instilling a culture, public service announcements? public schools? so people can voluntarily pay for police protection or deal with criminals on their own? what if they are poor and can't afford it, do they get a discount? is that fair? who decides what people pay for that protection?

well if we are discussing voluntarism a culture would only win by being more competitive than competing cultural identities in the marketplace of ideas. I can't dive deep into social organization currently, but I think Richard Dawkin's "The Selfish Gene" gives a good discussion of cultural evolution. Concerning financing, either a, poor people would be voluntarily subsidized by those who can pay, perhaps merchants have an interest in an NAP culture or other people have interests in such subsidy, perhaps friendly societies or religious groups. Or people could be made poor no more via some sort of a guaranteed minimum income, which in a voluntary society would be funded by people directly and/or by nonprofits that perhaps capture portions of the economy.

Yep. And it wouldn't be sanctioned by anyone with a 200 year old piece of paper for justification.

If it weren't illegal, would you just walk around doing violence on people? Most people wouldn't. Most people don't now.

At the end of every law that is written, is the implication of "or we will shoot you." That's not how you enforce good ideas.

corerect, i think specific deterrence is important but coercion, and the subset of state based coercion is not the only means.

Without concern for legal repercussions I probably would go around doing violence on people actually and I doubt I am alone in that. This is another case where we don't have to think abstractly we can look at what really happens, in places where to police don't go there is rampant violence. Look at your ghettos where the police fear to tread.

"At the end of every law that is written, is the implication of "or we will shoot you." That's not how you enforce good ideas."

Sure, but of course we don't actually have to shoot many people, almost none, only the ones who don't get what a good idea it is.

sounds like it is specific deterrence, not legal repercussions that keep you at bay? or do you super love the law independent of its power to actually regulate conduct?

how do you figure? You still have not been specific about what you consider "specific deterrence". What prevents me from doing violence is knowing that I will have legal repercussions, otherwise I would go around smacking people, beating the shit out of others and straight slaughtering some. You wouldn't?
I find the law interesting, I did win some awards for my lawyering skills.

Yes dear I am settled in your hotel

im not at the princess, but down the street, hopefully we can grab a drink

OK dear but iam new here some mistakes I have

You got a 27.28% upvote from @inciter courtesy of @fatkat!

Interesting story :0 THank you for the information :)

you are welcome, the conference seems pretty cool can't wait to listen to the speakers.

very good article ... :D
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