RE: Compulsory Schooling, Where Self-Confidence and Independent Success are Cardinal Sins (A brief reflection from my time as a teacher).
And yes, cutting all funding for public education right now is something that would be analogous to quitting heroin cold turkey. With society being the way it is right now, a lot of children just would not get any education of any kind, and that would be a disaster.
Well, this is easy to address, because I did not suggest people should not be able to continue going to school where they wish. I did not suggest they should be “cut off” from their choice. As long as I am allowed to be free, that is fine with me. See? The problem is on the side of the initiator of aggression.
On the other hand, comparing public education to forcing vast swathes of the population to do hard labor for free, and to treat them like chattel is really kind of a stretch, by comparison.
At what percentage of someone’s stolen time does something become slavery, in to your view?
I never suggested that we should be against private or home schooling. Obviously, that's a massive step in the wrong direction. In principle, having your earnings confiscated by the state is not different from chattel slavery. In practice, however, the two are extremely different in terms of degree, and the former creates dependency through collectivization, rather than personal enrichment through direct tyranny. Therefore, while one requires an immediate, even violent, response, the latter requires a measured, methodical response that takes into account the fact that collectivization, while wrong, is more complicated than direct tyranny of one man over another, and creates dependency that should be dissolved in a transitional way in order to avoid the disastrous consequences of pulling the rug out from under people who have come to depend on it.
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So at what percentage does it become slavery? And you seem to miss that I have not suggested pulling any rugs out from under anyone. Simply that I should not be coerced.
You mean at what percentage is income confiscation literally equivalent to total chattel slavery? At no point. They aren't actually the same thing. They may operate according to a common principle, but they are not literal equivalents. Now are you going to keep asking me "gotcha" questions, or are you going to respond to my argument?
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That’s just it. I’m not sure what you are trying to say here. Where did I suggest “pulling the rug out” from under anyone?
And second, what is a congruous analogy then, for forcing individuals under threat of violence to stay in a building all day? I’ll leave it to you.
You suggest that standardized education is fatally flawed. I posit that while that's the case in a lot of ways, basic literacy and mathematics are so essential, that one is functionally debilitated without them, and while public education, in principle, is problematic, it is necessary for some people for now, but that we can get rid of it eventually if we start moving in the right direction. You then compare public education to chattel slavery, and suggest that we should get rid of it immediately. I point out that that's not a good comparison, and that that's not a response that makes sense - that it pulls the rug out from under people who presently depend on it. Then you pretended not to understand the line of discourse we've been engaging in, and glibly asked where you were suggesting that we pull out the rug from under people.
If I'm wrong about any of that, feel free to clarify.
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Please show me where I suggested that specific course of action. I do not think in terms of “we,” really. I am saying I should be free and able to make my own choice, immediately.
Ok. Explain to me your question about percentages, vis à vis comparing taxation and slavery. Tell me what point you were trying to make.
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Taxation is a form of owning humans. Forget the word “slavery” if it bothers you. Let’s just look at reality:
Taxes are money taken from individuals under the threat of violence, regardless of the presence of consent (this is the definition of extortion). If I refuse to pay for schools, or military bombings of families in the Middle East, via my taxes, armed state agents will eventually come to my door. If I resist being taken away (kidnapped) by them, I will be killed.
This is demonstrative of the fact that these agents believe I am ultimately the property of the state, as my property is not my own. As the concept of property is an extension of self-ownership, the statist hallucination that it owns my property results in the hallucination that my body is also their property.
This actually fits the definition of the word slavery. You can try to differentiate between this type of human ownership and chattel slavery, and be correct that their are differences. However, it is simply another form
of farming humans in a parasitic manner, and claiming ownership over their lives.