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RE: Tearing Down Statues: How Everything Could and Is Going Wrong in the US Empire... And How To Fix It

in #anarchy7 years ago

But, after Lincoln’s fascist takeover every single person has been enslaved. Yet, they think they are free.

What kind of stupid shit is this? People chose to live in the States much like you chose to live in countries other than the States because you have benefits in your investments.

BUT

In every single country you move to, you are still a slave since you have to oblige with their rules.

People like you make anarchists looks like idiots.

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My interpretation was he meant that the civil war was not about slavery, but that Lincoln's desire was to preserve the union. This is a common interpretation by military historians that may or may not be conveniently left out of most text books or overlooked. The result of which created the 14th amendment which can be considered a type of "enslavement" to all who abide by citizenship. Citizenship being a system of ownership by the state.
I didn't interpret he assumes he is any freer then anyone else in that sense.
Where he lives is irrelevant. If a man/woman chooses to follow the rules is on them, Whether to their benefit or detriment. This topic would clearly be subjective. A man is free in his heart alone and will not find freedom anywhere else in the world or be given it by any other man.

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Feed the government!
Or was I looking for a different f word?

It's stupid because @dollarvigilante is unable to know what is true or false.

Nor can anyone. There are too many lies and too much propaganda. You can't accept anything as perfectly true, because there are so many people trying to manipulate things. Maybe DV is the manipulator, maybe he's the one being manipulated, or maybe he's outside that circle, but still helpless and fallible, unable to see how things really are.

This is not his fault. How can anyone truly see how things are when reality is so incredibly hazy, misinformation and propaganda is everywhere, and facts themselves are written in a biased form?

I don't blame him or you for sometimes being wrong, biased, or incorrect about things.

There are people who deliberately lie, and cast different groups of people as enemies to each other using those lies, or other propaganda, and create an environment where truth cannot rise above the festering lies and bias.

Just relax a bit, and think things through for yourself. No one is such an authority that you must actually believe every word they speak. Just judge for yourself what is true and false, because no one else chooses what you believe except you.

I don't blame you for sometimes being wrong, biased, or incorrect about things either.

Actually, I am a kitten, and thus, I am never wrong about anything ever.

Never ever. =p

Is that true?

Only true if you believe it.

Ok..I see.....well I don't believe you.

In your first reply you say DV (but you could fill in any name) can't know what is true or false because nobody can. And later you make an exemption for yourself as if your above all people and you know what right or wrong, biased or unbiased, correct or incorrect, and you say; People who deliberately lie........ As if it's possible to say someone is lying when your not even able to distinguish true from false

If nobody can distinguish true from false. (as you say)
then nobody can distinguish right from wrong biased from unbiased, correct from incorrect, and you could not tell if someone is lying, So saying someone is lying, makes you a liar according to you own rules or lack thereof. You could not know it.

I like to have you opinion on these issues.

If I said that; Mafia is bad because they oppress people, use violence to extort their victims, harm and kill people. And that it's a bad thing for those people do that.

Would you say I'm stupid because I can not know if it's true or false that those mafioso who do those things are bad?
Would you call me liar, that is using propaganda trying to put groups against each other?

Mafia is good at being mafia because they oppress people, use violence, etc etc.

I'm not an exemption, but DV is a wealthy, popular public figure, so I think it's like insulting any popular celebrity.

But don't go insulting me. I'm just a small fry kitten who doesn't like to speak truth.

I prefer to identify lies instead.

Oh dear kitten, I'm not insulting you. I'm saying that if you would reason according to your own rules. You would be a liar according to yourself. There's a difference.

You can not identify lies, if you yourself believe no one (including yourself) has the ability to distinguish between true or false. Then everything is true and everything is false, everybody speaks the truth an everybody lies at the same time. You can by doing that never adress any wrongdoings.


But don't go insulting me. I'm just a small fry kitten who doesn't like to speak truth.

So you speak the truth..........but you don't like it? What makes you so sure you speak the truth? Not saying you do or do not speak the truth, but just asking what makes you so sure that you are speaking the truth.

I prefer to identify lies instead.

So you think you are speaking the truth by identifying lies. Are absolutely sure they are lies? And that your right about that? Because else it could be that your unknowingly, spreading misinformation that might be propaganda trying to put groups against each other.

Not saying that you do that. Therefor notice the words, could be, unknowingly, and might. Carefully chosen for you ;)

Their rules? Who's rules? From the rulers?

Why would I have to oblige by the rules, of the rulers of any slave plantation?
What do you think you are to decide this. A ruler?

FYI I'm not a slave I'm an anarchist I have no rulers.

You can not tell me what rules I have to oblige with, or that I am a slave and therefor have to oblige by rules of someone else, you are not my ruler.

Edit; I'm not a follower of DV or defending him, I just had to point out how your argument makes no sense at all if you are an anarchist.