I have Nothing Original to Write ~ A Shit Post 4 You

in #blamened7 years ago

This seems to be the reoccurring theme here on steemit lately. People who consider themselves prolific writers who really don't have anything original to write about. Rather they grab their ideas out of chat or off of other people's blogs, it's all just regurgitated shitpost after shitpost. 

So what we have are normal shit posters that have plagued us over and over but now we have a new wave of shit posters. I am not even going to cover the bot "data" shit posters.

Now it is a 3 way tie of shit posting. 

1.) The shit posters we all know and hate

2.) The community is coming soon shit posters ~ Communities are already here. 

and my personal favorite 

3.) The bid bot complaining shit posters ~ Usually very large self voters.

They all hate contest, I find that funny as a contest usually means you have to give something away unless you are the contest shit poster who requires an upvote, follow or resteem in order to enter or win. Those are just run by a shitty user who is making you pay to play. That's your choice but know you're on the losing end.

So the regular normal shit posters, who knows if they will ever go anywhere. They are on every site on the internet so I doubt it.

The community is coming soon shit poster doesn't know there are already communities all around steemit. Pretty sad if you think about it.

That leaves us with the I self vote the fuck out of myself and friends/family with my delegation and get votes from the same set of friends but let's bitch and moan about bid bot shit posters. These assholes are turning a profit for circle jerking with the same set of people but have the nerve to complain about bid bots which are equal and fair for any user to get a boost from. This creates a problem for some, no guaranteed return on their investment. These are the people who already self vote to make sure they don't lose any of their money to other users. They also don't like that those who buy votes make their self votes worth less in the daily reward pool.

These are the real 2-faced devils you need to watch for. They show you one thing with your left hand and do something different with their right. They are angry that their self voted, circle jerked high reps are now being caught up to by new fish. They are becoming obsolete and are fighting to make you believe that they are righteous and bid bots are bad for the platform. Don't be a fucking moron and just believe the shit flowing from their mouths. Look at each person and look at their wallets. 

Here, I pulled one persons wallet who is high Rep'ed and fighting the bid-bot fight, cough, for the good of the people *cough* *cough*.



See, not all public post reveal the truth but the blockchain does. Some people find it fun to pull selected data while leaving other data hidden, like self vote totals or circle jerks.

If people are trying to persuade you with their daily shit post maybe it's a good time to use your mute button and hide that shit.

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Basically I agree with your shyte post... it’s tough to go up against the circle jerking whales... at least, once they get to that level of power/influence, they could maybe start being transparent about their actual shit posting and upvoting style.

I want a shit pillow like this!

Lemme see what it costs to ship to Greece and I’ll send you one. I’ll accept STEEM to cover costs.

Some of them are very transparent and get shunned. It all comes down to integrity in the end. Some have it and some do not, it's the ones who pretend they do that ruffle my feathers.

I respect your views on self-voting but I don't think it's harmful in all cases. If a user is providing the platform with quality content, I have no problem with them using their stake to self-vote their posts. I do hope that it's not excessive (for instance, I don't like seeing people self-vote their comments, even when it's only for "visibility"). I suppose if you try really hard you can post 10 times a day, and I think that counts as excessive too. As long as you clock in well below that figure, the majority of your voting power will still go to others on the platform.

You also seem to have a problem with people who tend to vote for and be voted by the same group of people. I confess, I think I am one of these people you are talking about. I don't mean any harm.

I power up so that I can have larger votes to give to the people whose company I enjoy, in hopes that they will stay a while, and to encourage the production of content I enjoy reading. I find new members of that group all the time in various ways, but most of my votes are concentrated to the people in my feed. As I gain more SP, I hope that that group will grow, but as it stands, I would rather have a larger impact on a small group of people I know and like, than a near-insignificant impact on a large group of random people I don't know.

I am sorry if that makes me a "bad guy," but you can't please all of the people all of the time.

It's harmful if you're a newbie and don't realize you're just wasting your vote due to the .02 payment threshold.

I really dislike the payment threshold business. I understand that it is designed to prevent spam but it just seems off to me, right? You're literally telling someone their vote doesn't matter because they haven't bought enough SP yet.

If they're going to have a minimum payout threshold, Steemit Inc's starter delegation ought to at least cover a $0.02 vote. I think my biggest gripe with the Steem onboarding process right now is it seems like such a massive scam to newbies.

Do we want the dumbest people generating our content or the smartest? Because smart people are wired to know scams when they see them, and one of the biggest indicators of a scam (see MLM, 419 scams, etc.) is having to pay up front in order to make money later.

The payment threshold seems like fraud to me. For almost a hundred days and over 1000 upvotes I thought all of my votes had value. This costs us a LOT of users who leave when they don't get paid. I upvoted your blog post since my regular vote doesn't count.

Lemony, you're not sitting on a large delegation voting 50% of your power to the same 4 accounts while writing complaint post after complaint post. I have no issue what people do with their stake, it's the handful doing wrong and pointing fingers at others which this post is directed at. They know who they are, I opted to leave names out.

Again if your vote was $15 and above do you feel you would vote 50% of your daily VP on the same 5 people or do you think by then you would have made a little more of a community than 5 people? To me that is not the ideal thing. Again, I wouldn't care if they were just doing it and not pointing fingers at others trying to make others out to be the bad guys.
Fact is if they would vote themselves and their 4 friends less, no-one would need the bid bots and they would go away. Once you have a few rings at the top just trading their VP everyone else suffers. If you have to self vote to pay for delegation, drop the delegation. Don't try to make yourself out to be the victim and then point fingers at a service that is open for any and all to use. We may not all agree on bid bots but it is pretty basic common sense if those at the top would vote for more users everyone could make it moving forward.
I am also fine with people who own their SP to self vote all they want but when you rent it and self vote you are just buying your own personal bid bot that you vote with. Basically if people would call a spade a spade there would not be much issue with how things are but it comes down to what benefits those who would profit from being overly vocal about bid bots while doing something just as shady.

Lemony, you're not sitting on a large delegation voting 50% of your power to the same 4 accounts while writing complaint post after complaint post.

Well, I do exhibit some of the qualities you identify as problematic, and I have voiced my opinions on bot abuse many times... so please forgive me if I misunderstood. It's good to know that you don't think I'm part of the problem. As it says in my bio, I like to think I am a force for good. :)

Again if your vote was $15 and above do you feel you would vote 50% of your daily VP on the same 5 people or do you think by then you would have made a little more of a community than 5 people?

I think it's more than 5 already! But to answer your question, I don't think so. I would probably set aside a good chunk of VP and pick a tag to curate. I would also probably have lowered the amount of my self-votes by then, or at least withhold them for a while to give some of it back as CR.

If you have to self vote to pay for delegation, drop the delegation.

I am also fine with people who own their SP to self vote all they want but when you rent it and self vote you are just buying your own personal bid bot that you vote with.

I'm not sure... I haven't looked into the economics of it yet, but I wonder if it is it possible to lease SP, pay for it in self-votes, and still have a heightened impact on rewards for others? In that case I wouldn't have a problem with it and might even consider doing it myself. Something tells me efficient markets would have made that impossible by now though (it's like arbitrage; if you think you might have found a lucrative model, you can reasonably suspect that someone has already done it to the point that it isn't).

My stance on self-voting is that if you believe your content is good content, then you are at the very least attempting to enrich the platform as well as yourself by upvoting it. Steem, like blockchain technology in general, is designed at the protocol level to benefit from our collective selfishness. Really, for me, it has little to do with how much voting power the person has or how they got it, but some function of the effort put into the post as well as its value to the platform.

Obviously, good content is subjective, but as with all subjective things, there is a certain achievable analysis of the distribution. I have seen many, many self-upvoted things that I not only consider wasteful myself, but also cannot imagine being a value-add for anyone.

In general, no matter how much SP someone has or how they got it, I'll never have a problem with anyone 100% upvoting all of their top-level posts if they really feel that their content adds that much value to the platform. I know at least a few people who do this with what we may consider "a lot" of SP. If we consider upvotes as nothing more than an assessment of content's value, then I wholeheartedly agree with at least one of them, and wholeheartedly disagree with at least one other.

Whew. Sorry for rambling so much. It's an interesting topic to discuss.

There are many who use their delegated SP for great things and if self-voting is required to keep it going that's fine. Two totally different topics.

This is more about those who have bought their own personal bit bots in delegated SP and are then throwing rocks at the bid bots from their glass house.

Very well said, it's easy to be righteous when your dirt is buried, too bad for them blockchain is transparent, although many, including me, didn't even know/want to check the stats of the "righteous" ones for their selfvotes and bid bots. How did you find those stats?

Nice shit post .. Not where I had thought this was going but worth the read anyways. I tend to ignore most negative posts as there is good and bad everywhere why focus on the shit you cant change.

Insideoutlet did you know about the .02 sbd payout threshold? I probably wasted at least 1000 of my upvotes.

.02 sbd payout threshold?

Not sure what you mean?

Posts that earn less than 2.0 cents do not receive earnings so if you uovote a post all by yourself the author of the post does not get paid and you do not get any curation awards but you do lose voting power.

Does that include comments?

Yes

Most do it for easy profit. I started a fight with a bot this morning and it inspired this post. It has just been so one-sided while people are doing just as shady stuff on their end.

Now that data can be pulled it is a lot easier to point cannons if people want to keep playing. Just create and move on. I did my rant, lol.

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