What did China's largest block chain chat about last night? 深夜,区块链微信群,王峰十问薛蛮子:都聊了什么?

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What did China's largest block chain chat about last night? 深夜,区块链微信群,王峰十问薛蛮子:都聊了什么?
Late at night, block chain WeChat group, Mr Wang asked xue savages, ten are talking?
On February 24, carved ye, zhu XiaoHu, wei-shing Chen three bosses in the block chain spat, zhu XiaoHu, wei-shing Chen is on social networks debunk among each other, block chain detonated landscapes of the New Year, regardless of class and the young and old rich and poor women and children, are together to buy (hao) white (jiu) food (CAI).
A bosses on mutual Dui is settled from a distance. In a group at three o 'clock, blue port interactive group founder and chairman of the board and CEO wang feng for famous chain blocks to the angels, barbarian fund founder and block chain practitioners xue barbarian issued 10 questions of substantive significance.
Besides xue savages, the so-called "1 trillion market value community" 500 crowd gathered a group of big risk investment and science and technology circles, such as very serious fund founder xiao-ping xu, angel investors xue savages, founder of baihe mu, RON brought Mr. CAI, founder of the capital, quantum ShuaiChu, founder of the chain.
There is a group of entertainers, with curiosity, such as: Mr Wang, gao, in the positive, liyan tong, Qin Lan, hu can be, ocean, han geng. Since the Spring Festival until midnight every day at 3 o 'clock, discussion has focused on the limelight is all three words - "block chain".
Mr Wang and xue barbarian question and answer is like a game, artful in communication, the following records for product way business review (WeChat ID: pintu360) choreography.
The first question: xue barbarian will be the next son?
Mr Wang: the first, I remember, you told me you are reading in Berkeley, California, and softbank masayoshi son is confronting friends, classmates or senior? Later on the investment of utstarcom have successful cooperation, you once said masayoshi son, the biggest success is out of the alibaba and yahoo. Did you think barbarian fund in the chain block out the next opportunity to alibaba?
Xue barbarian: don't give money to the rhythm of the whole die? Ha ha ha! Sun (justice) is my boss Berkeley summer job. He paid me $7 an hour, a vacation earned $seven thousand (gold). Sun is undergraduate and I am a graduate student (master). I am bigger than him. But his money has been more than I do. And more and more. Every investor looking forward to throwing a ali. This is too * * hard!
But the old man the opportunity came to sixty-five years old.
Chain block is a real turn the table hu lu the table all the mahjong tiles. Everything is zero. Up to the BAT niche to start on the same level. Can you tell me something about the old man not excited?
All people have the opportunity to do a BAT, especially the BAT can't play this now. This is a big opportunity!
The second question: block chain entrepreneurial spirit is what?
Mr Wang: the second question, I saw you mentioned several times "block chain entrepreneurial spirit", before the age of the Internet I also define the golden hill, a former boss of lei jun, talk about the Internet thinking, even "focus on extreme fast by word of mouth" tactic, seven words you mentioned "block chain entrepreneurship" refers to the concrete? Do you know the block in the chain of entrepreneurs, who has these characteristics?
Xue barbarian: I want to talk about what is before block chain entrepreneurial spirit, let's talk about what is a mental block chain.
My understanding of mental block chain: the first is the scale of trust, followed by the code that is common, the third is assigned to the individual.
Block chain era entrepreneurial spirit: I this overpass near Kyoto see a spectacle is * * days. Originally is the sea has a sandbar, a few miles long and the bai causeway and su of the west lake is only a beautiful scenery. But to a place on the top of the crotch with a day. Every visitor must see the scene under your head to the crotch. At that time, the sand dike, it is not an ordinary sand dike, but just like a huge dragon, direct to the sky. I was the example, it is overturned because the chain of blocks before the business logic.
Therefore, subversion is the first. Second spirit is have swung open arms and tide wait for no man of spirit. The third spirit is to have a strong ability to learn, to keep pace with The Times. Vision, mind, knowledge of can and the amount of allowing people is important than ever.
For either China or the United States, the Internet or mobile Internet, entrepreneurial spirit are interlinked. Each era of entrepreneurs, the excellences three to five years, is a talent when there are opportunities. As long as the BAT window for two or three years, we will see a new generation of leaders.
3 q: want to get rich will not become a cut of the leek?
Mr Wang: you mentioned "block to the beginning of the chain is a marathon, today busy most of the company may die", now entering its block chain is obviously more and more, what do you remind of new incoming? Or I am straight, look from the current trend, new stars can should calm down? What do you think?
Xue barbarian: all his mama call at three o 'clock. Wrote a half a day to send the wrong * * group! I'm sorry.
Don't superstitious so-called "experts", the "bosses" of the platform, more needs to be vigilant against pyramid selling. The whole block chain industry is full of air COINS, want to get rich, are easy to cut chives. I suggest that the entrepreneur is steadfast 3-5 years, focus on research and development, learning, and patience to find a spot, concentrated mobilize resources all around the world, blockbuster.
All of these block chain than children play the Internet and mobile Internet entrepreneurs are more tender. Have to give them time to heat up.
4 q: block chain should aim at specific scenarios such as the content, the electricity business, social?
Fourth q, wang feng: I also saw you the first few days claimed "more dangerous" and that the male to male chain chain, whether I can understand that for today's block chain project developers should to the PC Windows, smart phones, iOS, android era entrepreneurs, should put more effort in intelligent DApp written on the contract, aim at content, electric business, social and other specific application scenario. Isn't it? Many developers in our group.
Xue barbarian: scholars since I was the first cultural history. Is likely to make people laugh head off ignorance.
To be fair, from the COINS to the etheric, transaction cost, obviously transaction confirmation time, scalability, etc. Although quantum, EOS chain has a try, but it is a long distance. Before fully solve the problem of the male chain, all applications have considerable difficulty landing.
Don't * with the ring. Children want to be pregnant in October, January * * two marry a wife nor out son. That is the reason why
5 q: for the chain service of the block chain company's role?
As you mentioned yesterday, Mr Wang: the fifth asked prefer "company" for the chain service of the block chain, unfortunately I recently saw a few quantitative investment and asset management project, which was of this type? They block chain markets will in the future what role?
Xue barbarian: many people look down upon to the block chain company do white paper, PR, negative ICO community operations, digital currency investment Banks that service company. I think this is absolutely just need to, if can succeed in their respective fields of bibcock is one thing. Have such a company to come to me.
Q 6: "when others fear greedy, greedy when others fear." Do you fear?
Wang feng: 6 q, you once said that his last year at once into a whole new world, can be "a person into the kitchen to order". I always think you are very, very smart, of course, also someone says you chicken thieves. Looking today, notes has been very hot, it reminds me of buffett's that sentence: "when others fear greedy, greedy when others fear." A lot of people because of greed and fear, even my side many investors have been very successful, but also from time to time to talk about anxiety, this sentence is suitable for investment now? Ha ha.
Xue barbarian: last year, I am a traditional vc circles the first people to embrace block chain. Today all regulars comes into play. Xiaoping Wen Sheng are all in. I want to shout: hold. Children don't add fire has been crazy.
7 q: portfolio, and a few entrepreneurs for the block chain?
Wang: I noticed that there are a large number of traditional investment institutions (the dollar, the yuan) in the field of chain into blocks, and even friends I use "run into" in their own state. This year, in this case, your portfolio, and a few entrepreneurs into to the block chain project? After all, these a few years and AI, IOT, new retail and entertainment investment direction.
Xue barbarian: I'm not anxious. Along to the ocean to see the world, hot air blowing rain jiang.
Equity continues to do, is not affected. By my assistant Wang Kunliang. Also has a team is responsible for the chain block. Don't delay. To be honest, block chain is much faster than equity investment return period.
Mr Wang: traditional equity investment also take much of you?
Xue barbarian: should now seven partition piece of traditional chain of three points.
8 q: who is your lead in the chain of blocks in the world?
Wang feng: 8 q, I have been very curious, chain blocks, so the fresh things, some people even said that people born before 90 are not understand. What makes you truly has absolute confidence on the chain into blocks? Replacement today, who is a guider of you in the chain of blocks in the world?
Xue barbarian: early saw many old man lee smile to block chain, find translation, old cat, Zhou Shuoji et al. I found block chain with VR, AR tuyere, compared with essentially difference, block chain is the fundamental change of production relation, from a historical perspective, is an unprecedented opportunity. At the same time, I watched a lot of Chinese and foreign book block chain.
Mr Wang: which most affected by this book?
Xue barbarian: this is in the hearing of all mail and articles. In this power really is a man also. Watched a lot of Chinese, long prod-ucts will dominate and others primer is science. But shallow, lack of in-depth. Buffett tells his story is not big. God wants us to meet a few wrong people wake up a language complicated words.
Q: 9 barbarian home stay facility to accept payment currency?
Wang feng: 9 q, tell me about your "barbarian" of a home stay facility, a Kyoto old street is the one you bought almost all turned into "barbarian" path, everybody is very curious, is said to be savages home stay facility for digital currency such as COINS, etheric fang, each at present how to charge? If the price of these digital currency volatility, what is the effect of the guests?
Xue barbarian: no hurry. Anyway the duck shelves down is not urgent.
The purpose of the barbarian legend - days: since the reform and opening up, people's consumption upgrading. An annual increase of 38% of the population abroad; Location: Thailand Japan is the second one of the most popular destination, go abroad for the first landing in Thailand for suitable for shopping, low prices, Japan; And my personal influence, understanding of the abroad, have been to more than 80 countries, makes me have no advantage.
To sum up, I have found the big just need. The presence of a generation -- all the people all the way, will have a barbarian home stay facility; Less than four months, I overfulfilled the goal in Kyoto to purchase 100 sets of home stay facility. New goals mentioned 200 sets, to Osaka, or even Tokyo. Issuance of barbarian COINS, precious distributed reality, try to block chain technology implementation to offline. The name of the block chain is called the INN.
I am 65 years old to do I always like to do and it is only suitable for what I did. I want my life experiences to use vision of learning interest, also does the camel, climb the ladder is hanging. Ended up on the block chain; Distributed reality, I have hundreds of thousands of sets of town house villa available room.
CuiNian reform by qi baishi.
10 q: do you believe have COINS?
Mr Wang: the tenth asked, my side has a lot of digital currency investors after 90, they began to buy three or four years ago COINS, made a fortune. You know. One part of human speech will be called "COINS of faith", the investment strategy is the "big buy small drop small buy, tumble."
By the way, do you have a currency faith?
Xue barbarian: I'm holding some COINS and etheric lane, but to be fair, I am not a believer of COINS. My opinion of the currency: on the one hand is from my admiration of the hearing, also from my understanding of the history, the trend of understanding and the understanding of human nature. The currency is in the power of genius artist, block chain is the most profound conforms to human nature. So it can be in a year, at three o 'clock, overnight, across great river north and south.
Instead of (say) I am COINS believers, as I said, I am a human believers.
深夜,区块链微信群,王峰十问薛蛮子:都聊了什么?

2月24日,雕爷、朱啸虎、陈伟星三位大佬开展了区块链口水战,朱啸虎、陈伟星更是在社交网络上互相揭穿老底,区块链引爆了新年的奇异景观——不分贫富阶级和老幼妇孺,都在集中在一起买(hao)白(jiu)菜(cai)。

上一场大佬们的隔空互怼没有平息。在某三点钟群里,蓝港互动集团创始人、董事局主席兼CEO王峰针对区块链向著名天使投资人、蛮子基金创始人和区块链践行者薛蛮子发出了10个具有实质性意义的提问。

除了薛蛮子,这个号称“1万亿市值社群”的500人群里聚集了一帮风险投资大佬和科技圈人士,比如真格基金创始人徐小平、天使投资人薛蛮子、百合网创始人慕岩、隆领资本创始人蔡文胜、量子链创始人帅初。

还有一批怀揣着好奇心的演艺界人士,如:汪峰、高晓松、于正、佟丽娅、秦岚、胡可、海泉、韩庚。从春节开始每天持续到夜半三点,讨论的话题集中于风头正劲的三个字——“区块链”上。

王峰和薛蛮子的一问一答如同博弈,交流中妙语连珠,以下实录为品途商业评论(微信ID:pintu360)精编整理。

第一问:薛蛮子会不会成为下一个孙正义?

王峰:第一,我记得,您跟我说过你在加州Berkeley读书时和软银孙正义是同校好友,是同学还是学长?后来在UT斯达康的投资上有过成功的合作,你曾经说过孙正义最大的成功就是投出了阿里巴巴和雅虎。您觉得蛮子基金有没有在区块链里投出下一个阿里巴巴的机会?

薛蛮子:不给钱就往死里整的节奏吗?哈哈哈!孙(正义)是我伯克利暑假打工的老板。他付我七美金一钟头,一个假期赚了七千美(金)。孙是本科生而我是研究生(硕士)。我比他大。但他钱一直比我多。而且越来越多。每个投资者都盼着投出个阿里。这个是太**难了!

但是老头到了六十五岁机会来了。

区块链是个真正的翻了桌子胡撸了桌子上所有麻将牌的大事。一切都归零了。上至BAT下至小生意在同一起跑线上了。你说说老头能不激动吗?

所有人都有了机会干出个BAT,尤其是BAT现在不能玩这个。这个是大机会!

第二问:区块链的企业家精神是什么?

王峰:第二问,我看到你几次提到“区块链企业家精神”,之前互联网时代我金山前老板雷军也指点江山,大谈互联网思维,甚至提出“专注极致口碑快”七字诀,你提到的“区块链企业家精神”具体是指的什么?您认识的区块链创业者中,哪些人具有这些特点?

薛蛮子:我想在谈什么是区块链企业家精神之前,先谈谈什么是区块链精神。

我对区块链精神的认识:首先是信任的规模化,其次是代码即共识,第三个是赋能到个体。

区块链时代企业家精神:我这次在京都附近的天桥看了一个奇景是**看天。原本是海中有了一个长几公里的沙堤,和西湖的苏堤白堤一样,仅是一个美景而已。可是到了顶上有个地方,叫裤裆看天。每个游客必须把头伸到裤裆底下看景。这时候,这个沙堤就不是一个普通的沙堤,而是宛如一条巨龙,直飞天际。我之所以举这个例子,就是因为区块链颠覆了以往的商业逻辑。

因此,颠覆是第一条。第二个精神是有抡开膀子时不我待的精神。第三个精神是要有超强的学习能力,才能与时俱进。眼界,胸怀,识人之能和容人之量是前所未有的重要。

无论是中国还是美国,互联网还是移动互联网,企业家精神都是相通的。每个时代的创业者,各领风骚三五年,是人才什么时候都有机会。只要BAT给两三年窗口,我们会看到新一代的领军人物。

第三问:想要一夜暴富会不会成为被割的韭菜?

王峰:你之前提到“区块链是个马拉松的开头而已,今天热闹的公司大多数会完蛋”,现在进入区块链的人显然是越来越多了,你对新入局者有什么提醒?或者我直说吧,从目前的趋势上看,新人进入会不会应该冷静些?您怎么看?

薛蛮子:都他妈叫三点钟。写了半天发**错了群了!对不起。

不要迷信所谓的“专家”,“大佬”的站台,更要警惕传销。整个区块链行业到处都是空气币,想要一夜暴富,都容易被割了韭菜。我建议创业者踏踏实实 3-5年,专心研发,学习,耐心找到一个痛点,集中调动世界所有资源,一鸣惊人。

所有这些区块链孩子比当年玩互联网和移动互联网的创业者嫩得多。得给他们时间成热起来。

第四问:区块链应该瞄准内容、电商、社交等具体的场景?

王峰:第四问,我也看到你前几天说“为了公链而公链更危险”,是否我可以理解为今天的区块链项目开发者应该向当年的PC视窗、智能手机iOS、安卓时代的创业者们一样,应该把更多精力放在智能合约上写DApp,瞄准内容、电商、社交等具体的场景应用。对吗?我们群里很多开发者。

薛蛮子:我是初一文化的历史自学者。很可能无知地让人笑掉大牙。

平心而论,从比特币到以太坊,都有明显的交易费用,交易确认时间,可扩展性等问题。虽然量子,EOS等公链有尝试,但这更是一个长跑。在充分解决这些公链问题之前,所有应用都有相当大的落地难度。

急了也没用。想生孩子都得怀胎十月,娶*两十个老婆也不能一月出来儿子就是这个道理。

第五问:为区块链公司服务的区块链公司的角色?

王峰:第五问,昨天好像你提到更喜欢“为区块链公司服务的区块链公司”,不巧我最近也看了几个量化投资和资产管理的项目,它们是不是就是这一类型?它们在未来的区块链市场上会扮演什么角色?

薛蛮子:很多人看不起给区块链公司做白皮书,PR,负ICO社区运营,数字货币投行这样的服务公司。我认为这是绝对的刚需,如果能做成各自领域的龙头是很牛的一件事。有这样的公司赶紧来找我。

第六问:“别人恐惧时贪婪,别人贪婪时恐惧。”你恐惧吗?

王峰:第六问,你去年曾经说过自己一下子进入一个全新的世界,可以“一个人进厨房随便点菜”。我一直觉得您非常非常聪明,当然也有人说你鸡贼啊。放眼今天,炒币已经非常热了,这让我想起巴菲特的那句话:“别人恐惧时贪婪,别人贪婪时恐惧。”很多人因贪婪而恐惧,甚至我身边很多投资人已经很成功了,却也是不时地谈焦虑,这句话适用于现在的投资吗?哈哈。

薛蛮子:去年我是传统风投圈里最早拥抱区块链的人。今天正规军全部进场了。小平文胜都all in了。我反而要大声疾呼:hold 住。孩子已经疯狂了别再加火了。

第七问:投资组合,还有几成留给非区块链的创业者?

王峰:我注意到,有大量传统投资机构(美元、人民币)在进入区块链领域,甚至我身边的朋友用“跑步入场”在形容自己的状态。在这样的情况下,今年你的投资组合里,还有几成留给非区块链项目的创业者?毕竟,这几年还有AI、IOT、新零售和泛娱乐等投资方向。

薛蛮子:我一点不焦虑。冷眼向洋看世界,热风吹雨撒江天。

股权还在继续做,不受影响。由我的助理王坤亮负责。另外有一套班子负责区块链。两不耽误。老实说,区块链的回报期要比股权投资快得多。

王峰:传统股权投资还占你多大比例?
薛蛮子:现在应该七分区块链三分传统。

第八问:谁是你在区块链世界的引路人?

王峰:第八问,我一直很好奇,区块链这么新鲜的事物,有人甚至说90年以前出生的人都不懂。是什么促使你真正对进入区块链产生了绝对信心?今天交代,谁是你在区块链世界的引路人?

薛蛮子:早期见了很多区块链老人李笑来,赵东,老猫,周硕基等人。我发现区块链跟VR,AR等风口相比,有着本质上的区别,区块链是对生产关系的根本改变,从历史的角度来看,是一个前所未有的机会。同时我看了很多中外的区块链书。

王峰:哪本本书影响最大?

薛蛮子:这个是中本聪的所有邮件和文章。中本聪真乃奇人也。中文的看了不少,长铗韩锋等人的入门书都是科普。但是浅出有了,深入不足。人家巴菲特才是大才深入浅出。复杂的话一语惊醒梦中人。

第九问:蛮子民宿接受比特币付费的影响?

王峰:第九问,说说您的“蛮子民宿”吧,一条京都老街几乎都被您买下变成了“蛮子小路”,大家都很好奇,据说蛮子民宿接受比特币、以太坊等数字货币支付,每间目前怎么收费?如果这些数字货币的价格出现波动,会对入住的客人有什么影响?

薛蛮子:不急。反正鸭子上架了不急下来了。

蛮子名宿的初衷——天时:改革开放以来,人民消费升级。每年新增 38%的出国人口;地利:泰国日本是出国第一第二最受欢迎的目的地,泰国落地签、物价低、日本适合购物;人和:我个人的影响力、对国外的了解、去过80多个国家,使得我有别人没有的优势。

总结起来:我找到了大的刚需。一代一路——凡是有国人出现的地方,就要有蛮子民宿;不到四个月的时间,我超额完成了在京都购置100套民宿的目标。新的目标提到200套,进军大阪,甚至东京。发行蛮子币,宝贵的分布式Airbnb,尝试把区块链的技术落实到线下的场景。区块链的名字叫做INN。

我65岁重新创业干了我一直喜欢干而且是只适合我干的事。我要把我一生阅历学识眼光趣味都用上,还登梯子干骆驼,远悬了。最后都串上了区块链;分布式airbnb,我有现成的几百套町屋别墅几千个房间。

衰年变法,学齐白石。

第十问:你有比特币信仰吗?

王峰:第十问,我身边有很多90后的数字货币投资者,他们三四年前就开始买比特币,发财了。您懂的。其中一部分人言必称“比特币信仰”,投资策略是“小跌小买,大跌大买。”

对了,你有比特币信仰吗?

薛蛮子:我捏着几个比特币和以太坊,但平心而论,我不是一个比特币的信仰者。我对比特币的看法:一方面是来自我对中本聪的钦佩,也是来自我对历史的了解、对趋势的认识和对人性的体会。比特币是中本聪天才的神来之笔、区块链则是最深刻的符合人性。因此它能在大年三十,三点钟,一夜之间,红遍大江南北。

与其(说)我是比特币的信仰者,不如我说,我是人性的信仰者。

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