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RE: Some changes of how I steem until the next hardfork
What do you think about generic comments, made without reading the article? They are very common and nothing less than spam I would say. I see some authors do flag them. What's your take, flag them or ignore them?
I often flag them as sometimes my stake can take down their reputation by a lot, but when I do have time to check their comment history and if they have been way too spammy then I do flag them with a small percentage as well. They need to learn how to behave.
Generic comments is the major problem I am facing here. I do upvote generously if a comment furthers the conversation. But unfortunately very few are worth it. But I never flag anyone. I just ignore them. And actually that has indeed helped rehabilitate some of the so called spammers, who have reached out to me to help them improve their activities on the platform.
There seems to be a lot of generic gifs that relate to some general concept, like food. Then people will post that gif on every single post that has anything to do with food.
I usually flag them and write them a comment saying why I did and if they comment back apologizing I will upvote their apology but leave the flag. I think the flag (downvote) is way under-utilized right now because everyone's afraid of it. But it is an import part of helping to distribute the reward pool effectively and self-governing ourselves.
Sometimes its ignorance that's why I think users who are new should be put on tutorial mode, do as to be able to learn a lot, well some other times it depends on the individuals who are natural spammers
My take is let's orientate them first, then crucify them when they refuse to adhere,
That really depends on the Author. There are fast readers out there. Some people don't have all time to read such long articles but some just enjoy browsing picture like browsing the internet.
I wouldn't flag such comments.. First of all, how one should know was this general comment made with or without reading the article? Maybe a person just has no personal opinion on a certain post, for example. I have some authors who I know from loong time ago an Steemit who write on some scientific stuff which is quite hard to understand. At the same time I don't vote on posts I don't read [except a very few authors I upvote automatically from a long time ago]. So I read a scientific post, understand not so much, but to support an author I upvote a post and leave some kind of a generic comment.
Or another situation. As I have not so many comments under my posts - I always read them and then check the profile of the author. If there's a post at least to some extent worth voting, I vote for it and usually leave a comment. And sometimes it's hard to leave a specific comment because the article itself was kind of not so thought-provoking.
Just my thoughts, your comment was provoking. :D
I think a pointless comment saying you liked it or whatever is usually better left unsaid with just an upvote. Unless maybe it's an article that doesn't have any comments yet, everyone appreciates a comment. Though usually I get excited that someone commented and then I see that it is just something like "nice post!" or "Thanks for sharing" or something pointless and I am just annoyed. haha. I always try to add something to the discussion or just leave it at an upvote
Okay, not so generic comments :D :D I leave such comments only as a reply on generic comments to my posts. 😕
Otherwise I also try to add to the discussion.
It's difficult though to add something to breathtaking photos, still. 😊 No words will help.
great post here! thanks a lot for sharing.
I'm pretty new here on steemit, kindly check out my introductory post if you're pleased
https://steemit.com/introduceyourself/@rosebarbieumoh/xaiv5-rosebarbie-on-steemit
There you go :D
Talk of the devil and the devils shows up LOL
@rosebarbieumoh my dear, did you even read the article and the comment that you responded to? Please do read it, and then you'll know what your comment actually means.
I bet there is also a big language barrier as Steem is spreading among the whole world, people try their luck with something they have translated to attempt to earn a few $ and hoping the author didn't read the comment properly or there just aren't enough curators in their own language.
I'm sure it's something that will improve over time, though.
@acidyo you are right on the money. I think that's a major problem when i read a post that does not bring out any sense in the use of language. It is because its somebody whose mother tongue is not English and Google translation just messes it up.
Dear @acidyo although your post is too lengthy but once I started believe me I finished it in 20 mins (As I'm not native Englishman) after that I came to comment section and here I found some discussion on flags. I do agree that there is a big problem of Language Barrier. People from backward areas can't understand latest things yet. So it should b a lenient hand on them. But if someone is habitual then its upto authors and they should decide what to do.
True, Steemit is growing rapidly and also the promotion of Steemit is going on YouTube, Facebook and references, so the new user registration rate is increasing, but people who don't know English at all they can face some initial problems.
I've been wondering that same thing. How can we self govern when we can't all understand each other. What if a huge spammer comes in only speaking chinese? It would be difficult for any non-chinese people to shut it down... Maybe steemit should be english only and there should just be other forks for different languages like golos. I'm thinking maybe SMT's could solve this problem too.
Hey @rahemanali I am upvoting you for a very relevant comment that "furthers the conversation" with a witty comment. But I am also upvoting @rosebarbleumoh, not to encourage her spam, but since she is new here and deserves a chance to realize that a self-serving generic comment like her's is a spam that she should be staying away from in the future. I believe not in castigating, but rehabilitating the wrong-doer. If I can use my influence to reward a good author, I can also use it to incentivize future good behavior.
Cheers :)
Well, thanks for upvoting my comment and I see your point in giving this new Steemian a chance. :D
I think a better solution might be to tell them why you flagged and then if they apologize, upvote their apology. I don't think you should upvote their spam comment to "rehabilitate" her. You rehabilitate by rewarding good and not rewarding bad. They won't learn that self-serving generic comments are bad if they get upvoted for it.
@rosebaarbiemoh dear you are new here and may not be well versed the unwritten code of conduct. My vote is not support the violate of the code of conduct, but just to give you another chance to do better in the future. @adasq, please read my reply to @rahemeanali's comment why I gave @rosebarbieumoh a small upvote. It was not to negate your downvote, but to just give her a chance. My apologies if you feel otherwise.
Thank you so much Sir @sharonomics, I've learnt my lessons.
Haha, just as ordered!