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RE: Delegations needed! 20% ROI offer to the delegates, weekly automatic payouts. 30,000 SP now!

in #blog6 years ago (edited)

@nfc kindly refrain from memo spamming our @minnowbooster users, your bot currently sends out memos after users receive memos from us. This is spam like behaviour and not acceptable. Further spam will result in your account being added to the Steemit.com bad actors list and reported to the Steemcleaners. Thank you for your co-operation, no downvotes/flags will be levied on your Steem posts at this time as this is a first warning.

Edit: This is worse than I thought, I have since investigated that you do this to everyone who initiates the delegate or undelegate blockchain function, which is highly spammy and will provide for a bad user experience overall on Steem. Below are examples of your memo triggers:

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himm, minnowbooster was auto commenting the upvoted posts with an image for a loong time. Did you reported yourselves to the bad actors list (is there such a thing?) or reported to SteemCleaners?

Downvoted to neutralize the auto comment upvotes you're producing from your minnowbooster network.

Minnowbooster was autocommenting with upgoat pictures only on posts where our customers ordered votes, not on posts where we were not wanted. We eventually stopped it to keep posts looking cleaner. The bot market was still in its infancy then and we were still learning what was acceptable.

I take it you are the developer behind @nfc then? If so you should consider that your memos are invasive to everyone as they are not just aimed at your customers, they are chain wide and poach on customers of every bot and delegation service. It is as socially unacceptable as standing outside a competitor’s barber shop handing out flyers from your competing business to patrons that walks in and out.

Furthermore the user experience will be increasingly spammy for users making use of notifier services such as GINAbot and Steemify.

I have also noted your hostile attitude in flagging my comment when I issued merely a warning without flagging any of your content.

I take it you are the developer behind @nfc then?

No. I have no relation to @nfc account. But I don't like hypocrisy.

Minnowbooster was autocommenting with upgoat pictures only on posts where our customers ordered votes, not on posts where we were not wanted.

So, you were sure customers want upgoat pictures? They were ordering upvotes, not silly images. You were just spamming the network.

Actually I remember the upgoat phase and it also included confirmation of a vote buy which is necessary. Keep that in mind.

it also included confirmation of a vote buy which is necessary.

Oh, necessary, what a good word. Isn't it necessary now? There are multiple less spammy ways.

What I see here, you see this project as a threat to MB's vote selling business and cut it down before it grows.

Because, it looks like it actually curates good content mostly and giving back great profits.

Thank you for your support and attention to my project.
I'm really trying to curate good posts, it really can work.
Everything is just beginning. But what I know for sure is an idea and it works. It is being tested in practice right now.

They are our customers, they don’t have to order minnowbooster votes if they don’t want goat pictures, and like I said we stopped doing it because we thought it would be a better, more discrete user experience without it. The difference here is that nfc memos cannot be opted out of and everyone chain wide has to be subjected to them without choice, which is totally different.

Good morning. Thank you all for the answers.

@thecryptodrive
I was not going to spam the network. I'm new here. I had little to advertise the product.
I had a choice: to create senseless posts and boost them up to $ 600, so that people could see them. Or I can send 0.001 SBD to people and write a memo with my promotion.
I thought that sending 0.001 SBD no more than once to 1 user and no more than 300 advertisements in total is the best way out. I couldn't have imagined that this would be a problem and I can be blacklisted by @steemcleaners or @minnowbooster.

Hi @nfc I received it twice today, so I assumed users get the memo all the time. Maybe your script is broken.

@thecryptodrive
It makes no sense to send twice or more this advertisement.
This is a one-time action and the list of users was in temporary storage, maybe it was just a reboot. It doesn't matter, I think.

What type of advertising is better for you? Can I create posts and boost them in the top to attract delegations? I think it hurts the network more.

Or I can send some advertising by sending SBD. I can increase the number of money sent. If I send ads with 0.010 SBD or 0.100 SBD, I think it will no longer be considered spam.

I think creating and boosting a post is fine because people have the ability to mute the author or flag the post if they disagree, memos cannot be blocked or opted out of and are more invasive. If you do upvote your post, don't vote it to #1 on trending either :) that should be reserved for author content posts.