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RE: Who Will Down Vote Haejin After the Fork

in #busy6 years ago

Decentralization is not all about transparency, and transparency isn't revealing one's identity. Decentralization is about decision making being done among a consensus of people as opposed to one person or position making the decisions, and transparency is the visibility of actions across the network, not about who is who because that does not change anything and it actually hinders and compromises more than anything, especially when the stakeholder is so heavily invested.

Accountability? Professionalism? What the fuck do you, whoever the fuck you may be, which by your own logic is hidden behind a pseudonym, think this is? Where did you gather any of such insipid requirements for a block producer? The only job a block producer has is to adjust the price feed, which should be completely scrapped, and their other less hands on duty is to make sure that their witnesses do not miss too many transactions, that is all. I heard other ridiculous things, like feduciary responsibility, or that they need a website and a mission statement, as if that has absolutely any bearing or is remotely tangent to basically RUNNING A SERVER. I will await your response, which I bet my entire 300 sp account on, would not turn up to ascertaine exactly why, and how, any stakeholder needs to compromise themselves by revealing their given name, or why and how a block producer must have such insipid requirements.

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Well here the top block producers decide on the code that runs this place don’t they ? And since they are voted in it stands to reason that knowing what the people behind the servers stand for and what or whom they are motivated by should be transparent to all.

The rest of your points are your opinion and moot as they have no weight on the fact that this blockchain is an attempt at democratic consensus stake weighted voting. This isn’t a mere proof of work platform, it’s also heavily influenced by its social mechanisms.

You’re also confusing names with our ability to engage with and determine whom we want running the servers here. It’s not about a name or label it’s absolutely about having no ability to ascertain anything except voting habits from an investor that chooses not to reveal anything about their nature on a social media platform.

That doesn’t build any confidence and does nothing to help the ecosystem to reach a consensus for what is best for all stakeholders.

I’ll stop because I know you are very opinionated and I’m not looking to fight with you or create my own fork or interact with someone demonstrating such hostility.

Well here the top block producers decide on the code that runs this place don’t they ? And since they are voted in it stands to reason that knowing what the people behind the servers stand for and what or whom they are motivated by should be transparent to all.

Not at all. Deciding on what code they want to run is entirely up to them. The fact that they are voted does not mean that they owe anyone anything, especially silly nonsense like "what motivated them" or "whom motivated them". Their job is almost entirely singular: makeing sure they don't miss blocks. Nowhere does it say that they owe anyone any kind of explanation or even to reveal their intentions.

You’re also confusing names with our ability to engage with and determine whom we want running the servers here. It’s not about a name or label it’s absolutely about having no ability to ascertain anything except voting habits from an investor that chooses not to reveal anything about their nature on a social media platform.

No I'm not confusing shit, you are the one that is apparently confused over this:

I also cannot express enough how having an %%%anonymous entity%%% like freedom in the shadows is destroying steem from a philosophical standpoint alone.

There is no philosophical standpoint to any of that. Which brings me to your statement that my point about decentralization NOT being about transparency, and Transparency NOT being about identity are debatable. They most certainly are not, do I have to open up a dictionary and walk you through what those things are defined as and explain to you why there's no such thing as "transparency is what decentralization is about" or the insinuating nonsense that transparency means engaging or otherwise participating in the social media aspect of the blockchain?

The point is that there is no need to "help the ecosystem to reach a consensus for what is best for all stakeholders", that's only your naivete which is best dismissed entirely by: trying to please everyone leads to displeasing everyone.

This, Steem, is many different things to different people and that is why there is nothing, like I wagered, that you could point to or reason that will make your case any less ridiculous, it doesn't mean that stakeholders have to participate in all it's aspects, or that the have any kind of obligation to explain themselves and their action to anyone. Nobody owes anyone here any such nonsense as 'so what motivated you to vote or act like this' and anyone who is naive enough to fall for such things, as if that would change anything, best re-examine everything they do in light of that insipid demand they have of others, lest they be a complete hypocrite.

Okay bud

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You owe me an explanation, what motivated you to respond with OK? Why is it OK? How is it OK? Or is it simply lip service? Mockery? Attempting to escape your own claims, leaving the conversation behind? Or you don't think your nonsense should be applied across the board, only to your arbitrary measure of how much stake in the system demands that you explain yourself? Even no answer is an answer so my satisfaction is guaranteed no matter what you decide to do.

I owe you nothing, just like your interpretations of the witnesses. Steem is different things to different people. There are no rules and no reason that I should waste any of my life on you. You're an island and your own circle jerk. I don't like your tone and I assure you I will never be bothered to have any correspondence with you again. I'm not impressed by your word salads and idgaf about your opinions. I didn't believe in muting until I ran into you, so congratulations on further diminishing your maniacal influence. I probably wont mute you because you're not worth another a tap of a touch screen. Ignoring your arrogance and ignorance will be easy. Owe you LMFAO 🤗

In other words, you're a hypocrite: you demand others owe you their motivation but you don't owe anyone jack shit the same? You don't care about my 'opinion' but then you subscribe to it nonetheless.

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#tonepolicing, mute me why don't, or tell me how little you think of me as if I do give a fuck, and that has anything to do with what I said.

#word-salad lol yeah sure.

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