RE: What if... Spork - Steem without SteemIt, Inc
A spork is a spoon with small fork-like tines, not to be confused with the splade, which is similar but also has a dull blade on an edge. Both are relatively old terms and the splade used to be considered quite fancy (according to my mother).
I don't think you need to discuss this idea though, you can just do it as it doesn't require consensus from the top20. You can distribute your token in the same way without the top 4 accounts staked and used that amount of your SCOT token to pay for whatever you choose.
Of course, it would mean that the token would have to hold some worthwhile value eventually for people to take it as payment to have things like a real marketing budget, which likely requires it being listed on numerous exchanges with volume, but it is possible. As far as a better Trending, UI and the like, that is all possible now and better curation? What would that look like - that is playing around with the economics which is possible here too.
I don't think this is overly helpful or useful though and in a young industry it seems that the only response anyone has to not getting their way is forking in various capacities. I think that having that stake sitting there has had a stabilizing effect in the infancy and while it is slowly sold off it eventually gets replaced organically. By removing those top accounts, it puts many of those who have have power now (just not as much) in more control with many of them being the largest abusers on the platform. Maybe that is the point?
This is a variation of the "fork out Steemit" conversation and seems driven by the same group of proponents.
I don't think you need to discuss this idea though, you can just do it as it doesn't require consensus from the top20
No, I don't need to just curious what the interest level would be.
in more control with many of them being the largest abusers on the platform. Maybe that is the point?
The top 4 accounts hold close to 60% there is no one else close to that? I'm sure you are better at math than that? I am also pretty sure those that you are thinking of wouldn't be interested or could do it with out my interests.
This is a variation of the "fork out Steemit" conversation and seems driven by the same group of proponents
Wow? Really? Are you seriously that defensive for steem? I wrote several times about how I would never consider supporting such a thing.
If you get this defensive over a discussion which doesn't have anything to do with any Proponants...? it only a discussion and frankly I'm pretty stunned and a smidge butthurt over where you went with this. It was enlightening though.
Most of the stake that Steemit has had has never voted. misterdelegation has gone out to Dapps -that is centralization of some kind but they are also the largest distributors and have grown the ecosystem.
This is a variation on the fork and many people who said they wouldn't were still keen to discuss doing it. it is political maneuvering to sway public opinion. People do as they do, regardless of whether they know much or not.
I am not defensive in the slightest, I just gave my opinion on how I see things. For a token to have value it has to have demand in various ways and be listed on various exchanges to have that. to use it for marketing purposes requires that value as a marketing company probably doesn't want crypto, let alone one that isn't worth much. It might be possible to convince users to be a support desk though but then, that is much like @steemonboarding or many of the discord communities are doing now. This would just centralize the support function.
Most of the benefits you mention are possible to have now, including the changing of the economy and distribution, something you have publicly said you are not in favor of as you want Communities and SMTs first. What you are proposing is economical to improve communities so, why not support it on Steem now?
Why not
This sounds defensive :P
That was not the question: why not support it on Steem now?
It was about the changes in the curve, DV pool etc...
There is nothing wrong with this idea you put forward, it is that it doesn't offer much that can't be done on Steem already other than the large staked 4. When it comes to that stake going to a funding pool, it then has to have value which means it takes time also. Once it has value, it needs to be sold. Who in the community would want to have it dumped at the highs? one of the criticisms of Stinc was not dumping the stake at the highs to fund the lows but if they had, who would have been happy as it would have brought the price down even faster and all those who did sell, would have made less?
This idea can be done quite easily with soe devs who recalculate the pool and distribute to the posts on Steem as they are now with the new token. On some platforms, that token will be the only one used. If it gains in popularity and demand and people don't dump it, it should build in value until that large pool part has value too and can be used for onboarding and marketing etc. This all takes time also and I am not sure if it would be much faster than another 3 years. Worth the attempt though but unless the economics is quite different, it will still have the same community with the same habits and likely, the same issues.
should i edit? :D
edit: now you see how slow I type.