New STEEM... It's not like OLD STEEM
As many of you know I am not a huge fan of the EIP economic changes. However, I am a fan of Steem and the change IS marketable.
CALLING FOR A COMMUNITY WIDE MARKETING CAMPAIGN
People think Steem is dead the last they heard from us was the Layoffs.
OLD STEEM was dead, sad and lonely.... Filled with Geeks who want to talk about MATH
NEW STEEM is Fresh and new and exciting. It is filled with humans who want to engage, contribute and help grow and develop Steem. Everyone is onboard on NEW STEEM
We are not making changes because we are sad and scared.
We are making changes because the changes are awesome and FRESH.
I am calling for a full relaunch and Marketing Campaign.
OLD STEEM vs. NEW STEEM
NEW STEEM
New community funding -SPS
New Community Tools - Scot tokens and sites
New Scalability - Mira
New Economic Model - EIP
New Leadership in SteemIt Inc one of our funding and development companies
MOST IMPORTANT
New Attitude - Thriving
OLD STEEM
Rude, Scammy, Bad Economics, Too much GEEK.
We need to package the idea of New, Exciting and Alive Steem.
Please help. It can be done in memes, stories, community-wide and outside.
Once we get some graphics, Posts, Blogs... and yes Memes...
We will start a full community-wide Marketing Campaign.
Personally I don't think the Math matters it is our actions and attitudes that matter.
Time to stop fighting and GET ON BOARD
OLD STEEM is DUMB, NEW STEEM is great.
Outreach ideas so far. (mostly small, need more...)
NathanMars
Theycallmedan
PALNET
Steemit Inc
What else can we do without a budget? Please brainstorm.
OLD STEEM: Didn't work
NEW STEEM: Works.
It's a great campaign designed after old coke and new coke, those of you who tell me you liked old coke better are missing the point, because the campaign is still talked about today!
Write up or Mock up your Ideas and let's build a Community Marketing Effort! We do not have a budget and we need your help and your support!
Use the tag #newsteem
We may never have this many changes at once again, at the beginning of a new bullrun. Let's not miss this opportunity!
I'm liking this!!
OLD STEEM
NEW STEEM
NEAR FUTURE CONSIDERATION
You could possibly mention communities which are coming sooner than most people think because here's the deal they're just making changes to the Hivemind and some protocols and we don't have to wait for them to make a UI for communities. All the other projects can jump on it as soon as they make the non-blockchain stuff active.
So i'd have that as part of the marketing. Steempeak will jump on the communities quickly if nothing else.
So i see this as:
But I like get rich quick schemes. Steemit was more fun when people made money tbh.
More great ideas!
#newsteem
claro,,,, la idea es que todos podamos contribuir para mejorar cada vez mas ... saludos
Can someone direct me to a link so that I can learn more about this "New Economic Model - EIP"?
I'm just curious. It's been awhile since I came back here...
Here you go...
https://steemit.com/steem/@ats-david/the-economic-theory-of-hf21-s-eip
Upvoted for blatant self-aggrandizement!
NEW STEEM
I agree with the sentiment, I am looking forward to the changes. Communities are my thing as I have my community idea but it would only for the UK as worldwide it would be too cumbersome and this is one of the problems for steem as it's far too noisy and posts tend to get lost among all the clamour, something that would be relevant for a small region does not always translate to a worldwide stage but at the same time you can on board people just as much by making content relevent.
Yeah me too.
Have you gone to the new post by steemit and per chance looked at their new document explaining what they're thinking about doing for the backend support? I wish more people should respond there.
I worry people will come in after it's done and say... "why did you do it that way?" And we'll be like... "ummm we were asking about it". haha
OldSteem thinking.
If we embrace and work on newsteem, oldsteem falls away.
You make content relevent with eyes on the site and upvotes and downvotes.
A free market approach.
From grass to grace
Love this initiative. While recognizing the pessimistic past, looking forward to an optimistic future.
One of the most brilliant marketing that I have heard of was done by a Russian band of orphans Laskovy May. This is what they did: This took place the mid 80s believe. They had a truckload of cassette tapes (literally). They made copies of their album. Went to the train stations and started giving away these cassettes for free to travelers and train conductors. It is believed that is how they became popular.
So, what I would suggest is some groups like @steemonboarding or @steemalliance or anybody else creates media kits for marketing so that every Steemian can use. Then anybody can print them out and post them at every bus stop, stores, message boards, schools, universities, work, etc everywhere around the globe. Designate a day every season to take action. No need to talk to people, no need to make pitches, just post the printed marketing material.
Of course, this would only work if there was a fast sign up system. Steemit Inc never resolved this issue even with free RC account creation. If people need to wait a week or two to get an account all efforts are useless. In this age, nobody waits that long to create an account.
We will get people signed up... Many of us including myself have accounts.
@justinw, I don't know who to tell, if you guys need help.. Come to us.
NEWSTEEM
THIS !
"NEW STEEM
New community funding -SPS
New Community Tools - Scot tokens and sites
New Scalability - Mira
New Economic Model - EIP
New Leadership in SteemIt Inc one of our funding and development companies
MOST IMPORTANT
New Attitude - Thriving"
You forgot about
New look (to the steemit.com page) and
New roadmap
just for you :D
I likes it!
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:D Almost passed the exit
Hahaha :)
Ha, ha, ha I love it @soyrosa
Can I drive backwards on the highway? I think I missed my exit.
@whatsup -
This post has been sitting open on my desk top for a couple of days and I've only just got to it now. I really like the positive tone. I admit to having been one of the nay-sayers when I first started reading posts about HF21, and, I admit, specifically in relation to the creator/curator split. Like everyone who has a vested interest in Steem appreciating in vlaue, I was feeling hard done by. I get the difference between those of us (as in @ats-david suggests in his post), who haven't used fiat to buy Steem, and those of us who have used the platform to generate (a bit of a head of) Steem. My reaction was that we have created and thus invested our time and contributed in a different way to the develoment of the platform. The time spent on creating posts (people's opinion of the quality aside - that is another matter), is nowhere near what I could charge in my day job (and no, it's not what you think! lol). I was beginning to question what the hell I was doing.
I will also nail my colours to the mast: I prefer the creative process to curation. I would love to be doing more of the latter, but I have a day job that pays the bills...
Which brings me to my next point: I have not powered down - ever. After HF20, and I was paralysed, I received a small delegation (now returned) and I have given two small delegations - in the spirit of both pay-back and paying it forward; I have used some Steem/SBD to buy SBI and to host my website so that I can use @steempress (I'll come back to this). In the grand scheme of things, though, that's negligible. As is the tiny head of Steem I've managed to build so far. So again, the question arises: what the hell am I doing?
It comes back to what is, for many, almost a mantra:
Which for someone who is not a herd animal, is quite something and thanks in no small part to the big-hearted small community lead by @jaynie and @zord189, @steemitbloggers aka #poiwerhousecreatives and its members.
So, back to my
questionself-examination: It was @ats-david's provocatively titled post, Oh, No! Hard Fork 21 Will Kill Us All! that nurtured a niggling feeling that whatever happened with HF21, I'd hang around (as I think it did for @nickyhavey?). The reasons have as much to do with community as with having found two dapps that work really well for my purposes - both on Steemit and "there". Using @share2steem and @steempress allows me to reach not just a bigger audience, but different audiences, including some thatwoulddo not have the remotest interest in Steemit or crypto currencies.So, as a person for whom investing in Steem is unaffordable (even when it was at its lowest), I am going to hang around. I'm beginning to warm to the new Steem especially if it deals with some of the nasty, bullying and bot behaviour that has made some Steemians lives miserable.
Thanks to you and @ats-david for a different and more positive perspective.
Fiona
(aka one of the little guys
Well said Fiona!
I've made plenty of comments elsewhere on the platform so not going to spend much more time on it. Here's a time-lapse of my thoughts in comment form:
HF21 - hated the idea, woe is me, author rewards slashed, wait I'm getting something for my time and I've not spent any of my own money, that's still good, changes are coming, I'll do some more curating to get more, still got friends on the platform, still getting more than fb, twitter and YouTube combined. Staying, buoyant.
My HF21 lol
Nicky (another little guy)
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You are right. When I read his short novel of a post I was highly impressed. I am proud to say that @ats-david is another of my esteemed witnesses and has been for some time. My voting power juice is not very high, but I like your comment so much I am going to send...
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Thank you @sgt-dan! Going to check Shade out. And your recommended witness...
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Okay... I've been here only since March. I've done well, but I have a certain toleration for being able to do what I need to do in the midst of head-spinning situations (thank you, teenage migraines), and picked up key support early...
But I read @penguinpablo every day on his Steem stats report, and Steem has three HUGE problems that interlink. Massive power downs, DAILY, in an environment in which activity remains steady and new signups are tailing off and HAVE BEEN tailing off steadily. The power downs, I don't have a suggestion about -- out of my minnow league (but hey, @streetstyle, getting folks to power up on a GRAND scale is your league, so maybe come speak on it).
What I do have a suggestion about is needing to find a way to onboard people and show them a path to success -- engagement, some kind of steady drip of cash -- SOMETHING. The stats show the system is losing steam -- there is no way around that, because if you have 1,400-1,500 new people coming in every week but engagement stays roughly flat, that means 1,400-1,500 have STOPPED engaging in that same time period. We are bringing fewer people in the front door while about the same amount are going out the back, along with those massive power downs.
Here's how we solve this: get high-value prospects on a curation trail at the start, just for them. I stayed because a kind orca/whale (I don't know the exact breakdown, but thank you, @carlgnash) delegated me enough SP so I could thank all the people who came through on my first posts, and that led to some decent early payouts in Steem terms for a red fish as those that I engaged with decided they would follow me. That was my early trail -- but that was not guaranteed. Let's make it guaranteed for those for who bring quality to the blockchain.
I came to this epiphany this week, when I realized: a lot of my support is from curation trails from different communities of Steemians ... I sort of backed into this position, not knowing what was going on. Now, all I have to do is maintain quality, and post regularly ... those trails provide me some income, and I realize I can now go take quality work and introduce myself to new communities that have trails. Not that many people are staying around to go through the process of backing into this position, and we can't afford not to retain the quality people among the 1,400-1500 a week that are coming in. So, start folks off right: get them onboard, watch how well they perform with #introduceyourself and just after, get them on a dedicated quality newbie curation trail, teach them how to position themselves to find other support.
We need to be INTENTIONAL about this, and the stats don't suggest we have a ton of time to figure this out. At the present rate of decline, we will have a situation in which more people are going out the back door than coming before the end of the year. Don't believe me? Here are the stats again; scroll down until you see the stats of new users, and tell me what direction they are clearly trending in. Engagement, combined with a little steady cash, will give new users incentive to stick around and see how great Steem is and can be -- we can solve this problem within existing resources AND, since HF21 gives more to curators, even make that an advantage to EVERYONE.
I agree with you. This is not an easy place to be. It is not just social media or a nice platform where you find a warm welcome. I left and came back after months. I know many who came with me and they left.
I find it hard to promote something I hardly understand myself.
Many contents about steem start in the middle of... and you need to be an insider to understand how or what.
Another problem is the language.
The faq is not easy, it's all in English and to most English is not their native language.
The step by step guide is missing, so are the ways how to be able to post and comment.
Not able to do so if you are new is the most ridiculous thing a platform can have.
There is no way you can search for "how to power up/get more SP", " why can't I comment on a post". I know it cost me a lot of stress.
I believe many switch steemit for palnet now (although it beats me how to stake and sell/buy there) and who knows steemleo or publish0x suits more people too.
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Hi @wakeupkitty have you tried some discords like PAL ,or Steemchat discord ?
You can meet a lot of great people. It can be sort of rough on Steem to get traction with people.
This may surprise you, but at under 5000 SP myself I am a minnow :) But I was happy to delegate some SP to you at the beginning of your steem journey, and happy you are still here.
I think in general, people need to be careful about conflating users/retention with value for Steem, and also about conflating STEEM (the token) with Steem the blockchain.
Users who power up Steem add value to STEEM the token, while users who power down and sell lower the value of STEEM the token - but of course, in both cases, by far the major driver of price of STEEM is speculative investment (or in the case of STEEM, lack thereof, currently). It is important to note that simply being an active user is neutral to price of STEEM, what matters is how much STEEM is held vs. how much is sold. I am of the personal opinion that the current situation with low STEEM prices and major holders powering down is actually good for Steem, the blockchain. For the first time in the history of Steem blockchain, the wealth distribution is improving. Whales powering down and a growing lower/middle class of users powering up = good for Steem the blockchain, even if it is bad for the price of STEEM the token.
Well, @carlgnash, you may just be a big minnow, but you have the heart of the noblest of whales ... your kindness tokens are off the chain ... or, I should say, on the blockchain for as long as the world lasts!
I really appreciate your taking the time to explain STEEM the token vs. Steem the blockchain ... so, the thing to watch for is speculative investment, which us newbies have no idea about on this side of the looking glass ... I'm glad to have the clues to use before I go look at the stats again. I do see in those stats what you are referring to in terms of wealth distribution also; there ARE a lot of mid-sized and small power-ups, and the fact that posts and comments are staying stable means that even with folks coming in the front door and blowing out the back, the committed Steemians might just be able to hang on and keep powering up enough until investors pick up on what is being done on an improving blockchain, and get involved in a sustained way -- which will then bring up the token.
I hope that you are right, @carlgnash. I still think it would help to onboard people in a way that gives them incentive to stay around long enough to figure out how this all works so that they, too, have something to power up sooner, and more often. But at least I don't have to be as concerned about what looks like a slow-motion crash and burn... and since I wasn't going anywhere yet anyhow, I suppose I will just take my newbie self away to go create my next post...
BTW I certainly wasn't meaning to imply that there was no need to do what you say and onboard people in a way that they stick around. That is actually one of the clearest and easiest paths forward that I see, and unfortunately, one that the new "economic incentive plan" proposed in the hardfork will make much tougher. At the top with the large stakeholders who make these decisions, there is a general opinion that the smallest accounts really don't matter. This is actually ignoring the reality of the situation, which is that the smallest accounts are the only thing working currently, and the best thing that Steem (the blockchain) has going in terms of users. There is a tremendous incentive to power up when you are a new user. The 15 SP delegated to you doesn't even allow you to make more than a handful of comments, so the first 50 SP earned or so is almost always powered up by an account that wants to be able to transact. Onboard a thousand new users into communities of supportive folk and they will power up 50,000 SP in short order. One new whale investor that earns 50,000 SP from delegations to a bid bot will sell that amount. I personally am fine with the price remaining low and the larger stakeholders selling, while the small accounts grow. Steem has always had a terribly uneven stake distribution right from the beginning, and the current system and price of STEEM is working to help solve that.
But ultimately, it isn't investors or small accounts using Steem blockchain as a social media / blogging platform that is the future of Steem the blockchain. It is DAPP development. Price of STEEM being low is actually a great thing there, it allows DAPPs to buy enough resources at a low price for their users to record custom json transactions to the blockchain. Until/unless the demand for SP to provide resource credits for DAPPs exceeds the short term profit possible from leasing SP to bid bots, Steem isn't going anywhere. When that point does come though, bid bot problem will solve itself.
@carlgnash -- I did go on and make my new post... people like me just don't understand giving up, and even under the new EIP, I expect to do well. I don't expect that you expect to not do well. What I don't want to see, down the line, is folks talking about "Steem is great, but there was no way for newbies from summer 2019 to find a way to enjoy it." I don't want that to be the case on Steemit -- HOWEVER, I do see that perhaps it could be another DAPP that will get the job done. I intend in the very near future to start exploring Steempress to publish more extended writing works, for example. Perhaps the Steem journey could best be thought of as a relay race... the whole team wins in the end.
About bid bots I have nothing of great intelligence to say, except that I know from those stats that they account for only around .44 percent of transactions. That must be a powerful .44 percent, if they account for all those massive power downs -- and yes, there is no way for Steem the token to rise significantly under those conditions. That said, it makes sense to just hang on with Steem the blockchain and just stack STEEM and power it up at this low cost -- especially before the EIP, when it is easier for authors to do that stacking. To me, nothing will be lost; the discipline it takes to do enough to get rewarded around here pays off everywhere. What will be gained by HODLing if things turn out well will be quite wonderful. So, off I go to start planning future posts... the stacking WILL continue!
Sorry old Steem, but new Steem looks more attractive.
And looks are what matter most.
Not ever, but sometimes.
New Steem has shown to be just as fucking useless as Old Steem.
lol,...
!dramatoken
You're upping the drama to new levels! Have a DRAMA.
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DRAMAgo to steem-engine.com.Yeah, because you are still here! You are old steem, lol! So funny you don't even realize that yet, after the hard fork you will be without a spork to self feed! I can't wait!
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Look at this meme... just look at it... then ask yourself which one you'd rather see naked in the shower.. 🤣 !tip
lol
Oh yeah, great way to show yourself off on this blockchain, talking about the leader being naked. Stop being an incel.
EDIT AFTER THIS BLEW UP look @davedickeyyall, not trying to be mean, but just thought I'd let you know your comment feels a little creepy and lame. I'm sure you're a nice guy, no hate involved here, just trying to let you be aware. Have a good day friend!
New Steem, lead by example.
:)
I am leading by example: My example.
The last thing I'd want is for people to come on here and see everyone keeping their opinions to themselves and being all like:
Look I appreciate your enthusiasm, but let's not lose our individual spirit, eh?
lmao dude!
Same Here, Same Here!
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That is soooooooo Old Steem of you. Shame on you.
....do I get drama tokens for my own personal take on things...??
If you are lucky enough.
!dramatoken
I can't help it. Feel free to flag my comment ... #funwithflags #freeflags
Oh wait you've only been on the site 2 minutes...
lol What? What are you trying to get across with this sentence? I'm not gonna flag you mate, I'm just letting you know how cringe that comment was :)
My point is.. you don't know me... maybe leaving obnoxious sexual innuendo filled comments with plenty of expletives is my niche...
Lol,...
!dramatoken
Good niche mate, just letting you know it comes off cringey. I hope you continue striving 👌
You're upping the drama to new levels! Have a DRAMA.
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DRAMAgo to steem-engine.com.....virtue signalling while at the same using the white power symbol?MMmmmm...
lol.
You think that 'your leader' is above being thought about freely?
Cuck, much?
Your 'leaders' attitude, not mine....
hahaha you almost had me there mate! Nice attempt at trolling, but there was too much retardation in your post to feel legit 👌👌👌
....just scroll the picture up and down, old steem, new steem....see it works every time, guaranteed.
Old Steem Behavior will not help you earn 15 bucks worth of steem a day.
New Steem! Get on board.
11 out of 10 for you post and enthusiasm!! lol
(you should be in marketing).
Only 3 out of 10 for your choice of product to market, though.Sorry.
(I've given up on being 'mr popular' on this social media site. lol).
I'll be a voice of sanity- there seems bugger all of it right now, in this particular insane asylum.
'old steem behaviour' doesn't go away because you want it to. Human behavior will always take precedence over wishful thinking.
We wouldn't be where we are right now if this would be addressed/understood in the first place.
The market sees it, (price and ranking) ....I wonder why can't people within the steem ecosystem, can't?
An excellent motivational post though, irrelevant of my personal thoughts about steem.
New Steem is better. Nothing you can say can ruin it. Get on board. :)
Don't miss out you have always been one of my favs. Make a community for your group that was abused. New Options... New Steem.
Are you flirting with me? lol
I wont be really posting much or 'anything' for the next couple of months at least.
( my other venture is taking most of my time at the moment).
Still watching the show, though- and butting in!
Were you ever? 😎
He had a moment in the sun,...
how can I earn $15 bucks of steem a day?
Buy enough sp?
and then upvote myself.. yah.. I should have bought when it was $7 a STEEM.. great investment.
your comment
gifsays it all.lol.
YUP it is a sexist remark, borderline sexual harrasment! You could get fired from a job for saying something like that, or worse!
Yea, in today's climate you probably would get fired. Not calling for that though, sometimes people just need to be made aware of how the stuff they say comes off to other people.
He was probably just kidding, I read between the lines, I think it was just his way of saying he has a secret crush on her! I DO too! lol That's why I "flagged" her the other day!
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If I said it I would have been burned at the stake! OKieDokie!:)boy!
lol
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Hahahahahahha!
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Love this.
This is insane seeing them side by side, it actually looks like ned transitioned
Has @ned left? Heard absolutely nothing from the bloke for ages
I don't want to rain on your parade but as long as the main stakeholder dumping steem en mass on the exchange, don't expect positive results.
Stop dumping and bring steem to $2 and we don't need any marketing. Masses will flow in like back in good ole times.
Until then is just a waste of time.
They're just dumping the Old STEEM.
lol
YES!!!
New Steem is so much better!
😂
:D
I hope they do not dump the whole thing just to get the new steem.
Just kidding!!
How much steem is left to be dumped?
All of it
TT
There's this and there's also the likely additional downward pressure on prices that we'll see from new "projects" dumping tokens acquired through the SPS in order to fund "development." So, it seems that HF21 might just be a wash in terms of STEEM demand and prices.
Holy shit, someone finally sees the big picture! Congrats @ats-david! DING! DING! DING!
Thanks for acknowledging that!
Sadly, none of the consensus witnesses seem to agree with this. They finally get something kind of right with the EIP (after 2+ years of utter crap), then ruin it with more of the same "old Steem" mentality.
Two steps forward, three steps back. Seems to always be the trend around here.
I actually think some of that is likely to happen. I also think the stakeholders and witnesses have earned it.
As some like to say, we've built a second layer on the top of the broken first layer.
You better power down, sell and get out while the getting is good old boy!
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so much rain... We need demand either way, people control money. Excitement and fun bring money.
It seems to be helping create a slightly more level distribution and stake holding. If one wants stake there seems no better time... though that is not financial advice bla, bla, bla. 😎