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RE: Who Will Down Vote Haejin After the Fork

in #busy6 years ago

Yep, I mostly agree.

Integrity shows and so does lack of integrity. If you know what the right thing to do is, and you choose not to do it... because.. Money.

There isn't enough money in the world to change your integrity. But there might be enough to change your behavior. it's gross.

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I could bring back numerous instances of you saying "their stake their choice" or something to that effect, I could also bring back plenty of times you not only defended self voting abuse, but bid bots (just today) which is basically a matter of morality, since bidbots are cheating. Buying votes, you call it 'buying exposure' but it's simply buying votes, undermining the reason steem exists.

I disagree it is a moral issue to purchase something that someone else has listed for sale. There are dumb decisions and there is a lack of morality those are two different things.

Also self voting vs. deceitful fake accounts are two different things.

You're completely wrong. You can assert to the contrary all you want but as others have pointed out, you most certainly are wrong, buying votes is not OK anywhere in the world. Buying exposure that comes through vote buying undermines the very reason that voting was implemented, to distribute the Rewards. Rewards bought are no longer rewards. Rewards can only be earned.

What if we didn't name them votes... What if we named them visibility points?

Look I am fine with disagreeing on somethings, at the end of the day...

if no one looks at the site and no one curates it's a problem. Label that problem however you want and we all might see a few points differently...

I don't want to focus on that, if people just Downvoted and Upvoted their own personal preferences that would help a lot even though we would still likely have some places where we disagree. Right now, barely any curation is happening.

You can rename rewards to whatever you need to escape the ethical dilemma of cheating at the game, it will not change the fact that you are condoning cheating.

It doesn't matter at all what they're called, it matters what the act of buying and selling them does to the entire ecosystem, from the very premise of why they exist in the first place all the way to who that act attracts and the effects those actors will have in turn. I think I know why you didn't want to explain the reason for your disapproval of certain content not deserving the votes they bought, it's because you don't even want to broach the issue of what is good or bad, but the reason why I asked that was to point out that Vote Buying itself, that proposal, it appeals to a certain kind of person and many will try to deny it, but it a obvious enough, the same kind of people buy sex, they try to entice others with marketing and hype, they are focused primarily on appearance and such superficial things, but at the end of the day, after they came on some strangers tits, after they sold someone the fluff, after they finished spinning their wheels about "exposure" and such vapid things, they undoubtedly know the bitter unsatisfactory taste that it leaves, the net negative, or they are psychopaths and they enjoy using others, they derived satisfaction from such debasement.

I disagree it is a moral issue to purchase something that someone else has listed for sale.

To be fair, I can offer you a slave for sale. Or an assassination service. People can offer all sorts of immoral things for sale.

Again, a bad decision and immoral are two very different things.

You make a point, but really are you going to make that comparison?

A lot of people vote with their wallets based on moral decisions. Such as vegans not going to McDonald's - even for a veggie burger. Or people not spending money on clothing if they disagree with the company's child labour policies. And such.

So morality and purchasing decisions do indeed go hand in hand.

Also, who are honosurf and coininstant? And why are people on this chain such children?

Good point.

Just an unhappy guy with two accounts and he is mad so he is taking it out on everyone else.

Sigh, what to do... Seems to be a mass of immovable objects in the chain of command..

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Fork it, it's open source, and expose exactly who you are, as you want others to do, or shut the fuck up with this nonsense ya hypocrite.