Censorship on STEEMIT - Tron episode 1

ausbitbank (73) 5 years ago (edited)

And this is why we don't want a centralized blockchain run by the CCP.
In those changes is a new blacklist functionality, that literally connects to a random box in China to get an EXTRA blacklist from

http://39.105.221.87:8081/steemit/blacklist

The blocklist ip sits in this network range :

inetnum:        39.96.0.0 - 39.108.255.255
netname:        ALISOFT
descr:          Aliyun Computing Co., LTD
descr:          5F, Builing D, the West Lake International Plaza of S&T
descr:          No.391 Wen'er Road, Hangzhou, Zhejiang, China, 310099
country:        CN

ALISOFT / ALIYUN = ALIBABA

This extra blacklist check means they don't even need to update condenser in the future, they can just push out new censorship mandates direct from China.

Thanks @justinsunsteemit for really proving our point, and giving #hive even more momentum and media attention!

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brianoflondon (71) 5 years ago

NOTHING proves how correct we are to dump Justin and the virus spreading Chinese Communist Party and leave him to censor his own chain more than this.

I think the entire Steemit purchase could even be traced back to the CCP worrying about the future potential problem they will have trying to block arbitrary Steem now Hive front ends popping up and showing their oppressed and silenced people what is really going on in their country.

Annoymous Hive accounts should be promoted in all the significant Chinese languages and especially Mandarin, I'd really love to see a thriving underground Hive China movement.

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transcript-junky (63) 5 years ago

So interesting. It's just a bit shocking when you finally come to the realization that it REALLY WAS an orchestrated takeover attempt by the CCP. When you see it clearly it becomes more disturbing. Well, I see TWO major positive lines growing out of this :

( 1 ) We now have a PERFECT "A/B' test (case study) situation by which to SHOW the larger public how CCP-centralized ( #Steemit ) versus decentralized ( #Hive ) are different, by showing ACTUAL instances of censorship. This can be used to our ADVANTAGE to bring in new members to Hive. Its like a blessing in disguise.

( 2 ) It is a perfect political weapon against the CCP, on a broader scale. We should be writing up articles and reaching out to the anti-CCP crowd to show them the EVIDENCE of what is going on here. This will help BOTH expand the reach of Hive, AND contribute to the wider resistance movement.

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flemingfarm (68) 5 years ago

This needs to be spread everywhere. Coindesk and all other crypto media need to report this!

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eirik (69) 5 years ago

lol.

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techcoderx (64) 5 years ago (edited)

Now that link returns an empty data array. They are now hiding the blacklist somewhere else

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gringo211985 (60) 5 years ago

Hi @ausbitbank I had an idea to basically move all the SEO and content from steemit to hive, it would require us all manually doing it unless someone could create a tool, but please check out my idea at https://steemit.com/hive/@gringo211985/seo-solution-for-hive-io-let-s-take-our-content-with-us

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joythewanderer (78) 5 years ago

BTW: here is the China's new internet law implemented on March 1st, 2020, be positive, or else, you get censored ^^

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engrave (64) 5 years ago (edited)

It's already implemented.

Screenshot from 20200319 172932.png

The censorship is on.

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5 votes

tamiil (65) 5 years ago

And suddenly Steem looks to be a much riskier investment than Hive.

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engrave (64) 5 years ago

It was from the beginning. This chain will die sooner than later. Sell pressure after the Hive hard fork will dump Steem value to 0.

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crypto.piotr (70) 5 years ago

Czesc @engrave

Selling pressure dla HIVE tez bedzie ogromne. Jesli nie wieksze. Prawda jest taka, ze wiekszosc ludzi zainwestowala realne pieniadze w zakup steem. A hive token dostana za darmo. Zasadniczo wiec juz sam ten fakt bedzie wplywal na podswiadoma wartosc steemu i watpie aby bylo wielu uzytkownikow chetnych do jego sprzedazy po cenach zblizonych do zera.

Jesli cena steemu poszybuje faktycznie w dol, to wydaje mi sie ze wiekszosc ludzi po prostu bedzie trzymala go i czekala na dalszy rozwoj wydarzen.

Pozdrawiam
Piotrek

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engrave (64) 5 years ago

Moim zdaniem będzie inaczej. Ludzie przenoszący się na HIVE nie będą chcieli go sprzedawać, bo to jedyna droga rozwoju tego blockchainu. Steemit nie istnieje, wszyscy developerzy zrezygnowali, TRON nie ma developerów C/C++ i nie będzie w stanie rozwijać łańcucha. Co więcej - nie ma takiego zamiaru.

Okaże się już niedługo ;)

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drakos (70) 5 years ago

Yup, my post got censored too. Reposted it.

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2 votes

captainklaus (64) 5 years ago (edited)

On steemit, or on all the frontends?
Edit: Seems only on steemit.
Why are you still using it, and not steempeak?

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drakos (70) 5 years ago

Clinging to it until the last minute with nostalgia.

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2 votes

engrave (64) 5 years ago

Reaching your post is easy if you know that "something is wrong with this frontend". The problem is that many people use steemit by default. It's our job to notify everyone that there are different frontends and that one is censoring Hive content.

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captainklaus (64) 5 years ago

Got it ;)

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jasonbu (61) 5 years ago

Wow, that's literally incredible. I'm gob-smacked and top that off with ausbitbanks revelation. Steem >>> SCREEETCH!! SPLAT!

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tamiil (65) 5 years ago

Well, this kind of thing is the last nail in the coffin for me and probably for many others. Steem's main selling point was censorship resistance and when all it has left is steemit.com with Justin censoring everything he doesn't agree with then what's the point anymore?

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drakos (70) 5 years ago

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bryan-imhoff (66) 5 years ago

So. Much. Wow.

Of course Steemit always had the option to not display certain content in the front end, and did utilize it in the past in cases of illegal activity, extreme spam, etc.

This represents a new low by Justin Sun, blacklisting posts discussing other blockchain projects! And the code highlighted by @ausbitbank is even more damning! Without full witness control, these changes can only be implemented to the display of posts... but once Sun centralizes Steem I have no doubt we’ll see outright censorship in the form of coordinated witness servers actually removing or disallowing certain posts from the blockchain itself.

See you all tomorrow on Hive!

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tamiil (65) 5 years ago

I can't see him stopping there. What would stop him from blocking transactions of his "enemies"? The people who are against the sanctity of private property need to be dealt with after all.

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