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RE: Venezuela: Un Lugar Sin Economía - A Place With No Economy (Bilingual Post)
To say a lot with few words:
Why I started this thread:
The video I sent to you seems credible, but gives a totally different background for what you are going through.
I was, and still am interested in your take on it, and, as mentioned, I think it could also give you a wider horizon on your situation.
You just deflected, generalize and turn rather impolite, and that makes me skeptic.
Again: Stating 'facts' but avoiding skepticism or discussion is not very convincing.
If someone makes a video about how good Hitler was, is it going to seem credible to you?
You have to be very careful when you say something about Venezuela because the reality there is too complex for random people to comprehend. It's not about ideology. This is the common mistake outsider commentators make. We are talking here about people dying of hunger and in hospitals because there's no food and basic medicine since a bang of criminals took them away. When anyone has tried to send supplies, it has been denied. It's genocide!
When I said that you should go live there, you immediately said no... Of course, you know that you don't want to lose your rights and live in shackles. The things you have for granted, they don't have it there. The only thing they have is air, and it is just because the dictator cannot control it.
And I wasn't impolite. You brought this on yourself when you implied that level of education in Venezuela was better than in Germany. It's laughable and ridiculous.
And if you're still skeptic about the crimes committed and the current tyranny in Venezuela, with all due respect but you need to adjust your perception and discernment.
I've learnt a lot in this exchange, but the original intent of this discussion still has been negated, and I wonder if you actually ever had a look at the video.
Besides this we got sidetracked (deflection is always effective if you want to avoid a discussion), and you told me that you were not impolite, but that I was asking for it...
It was not very helpful, so I'll leave you to your ideas, even though I'd like you not to spread more of such unfounded 'facts' (you could make them 'founded', but for some reason this is not happening).
I wish you all the best, and even if you disagree, I hope for you that the US is not coming to 'save' you.
It's not about my ideas. I'm just merely describing the reality. And again people don't have to defend a genocide because he hates USA, though he doesn't really hate it. It's just pretending because he and his crooks want to go there to enjoy the capitalist life (That's the hypocrisy of these so called socialists). Are you aware of the bank accounts these thieves and murderers had at some banks in USA? There are millions there. How do you think they got that money? From their hard work? Absolutely no.
There is a misunderstanding among some people, those who call themselves liberals or some sort. They blindly think that it's a political issue. It's an humanitarian crisis. Aside from the Nazi era, the second humanitarian crisis in history that is not caused by natural disaster.
And if you think that if USA comes, there's going to be an civil war. No, because there's already blood on the streets. And it's not between two tendencies. It's between the citizens and thugs that were equipped with guns to defend the genocide.
Besides, people wish US come once and for all to take away the dictator. I told you. The resources are not in the hands of the people. They never have.
Sir, it's alright to be skeptic. But when things are clear, reason steps up. These are not unfounded facts. We can discuss about socialism and communism which are proven to be failures. But Like I said, it's not about politics here. It's about criminals making millions of people suffer, depriving them from food and basic medical care while they suck the nation and carry out their criminal activities such as drug trafficking, money laundering and terrorism. Venezuela is the biggest supermarket for all illegal activities worldwide.
Yes, you have a humanitarian crisis, I believe you and always did. So yes, this is your reality, no doubt about that.
It's just that the reasons for this crisis seem to differ widely, depending on whom you talk to.
Are you aware that people, Venezuelans, defend a totally different version than yours with just the same enthusiasm and conviction, proof and all? You'll call them liars, and they will call you the same. Truth might be a mix inbetween.
So for me now it's time to listen to different stories. Levelling the biases ;)
and btw.:
Lybia is the biggest supermarket for all illegal activities, not Venezuela. There are open markets for sex slaves and all.
US really was big help there.
Again, you need to go to Venezuela. No joke, but the first night there, you'll pray God that Trump green light the operation. You will run to give trump a big hug.
The dictator doesn't have people. The only supporters are criminals and some ignorant individuals that sadly have been parasites. They're not even the 10% of the population. That's why there have been rigged elections all these years.
And about listening to different stories: If a white-supremacist tells you now that the Nazi movement was misunderstood, you're going to give him the benefit of doubt. That's out of question, and very naive.
And Lybia used to have the medal for the first place, now it is Venezuela that has such a dishonorable "pleasure." They advertise all the time their criminal market... If I list you all the illegal things that have occurred during this nefarious socialist/communist dictatorship, I would need another life.
Your numbers are quite off.
What makes a person become socialist/communist? Just seeing his neighbor earning more, then think crazily he is entitled to own part of it. That's when people with common sense know such a "person" is infected with that virus.
You've got rather naive theories.