These are the kinds of idiots that creative types, and those who want their crypto to have value, need to understand

in #commmunity5 years ago

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Before I get to the meat of the matter, that being the specific douchbaggery of @pfunk ...and how to properly view these morons...

I'm gonna first say this as simply and clearly as I can... Imagine the worth of this site and the crypto attached to it, if it had a user base even one tenth the size of Facebook. And how would that happen? How id it happen for FB? By getting a lot of creative types with sizeable followers onboard, happy with the user experience and posting creative content often.

If you are into crypto you may have noticed that LBRY took a big jump during the lockdowns...due in large part because creatives started using it instead of Youtube and their followers came with and thus people started learning about it. It's not rocket science. Lot's of users = good.

Now, try to imagine what your crypto would be worth if all the creatives slowly stopped using this place to post creative content...went somewhere else. Took their content and followers with them, and there was nothing left here but crypto talk. How many users do you think this place would have left in a month? and what would the value of that crypto be worth when people see users leaving here left and right?

Easy enough to understand, yes? Apparently not. I and many other creative content providers have spoken about how creative content here is by and large treated like a bastard child. Like we are allowed and tolerated to post here, perhaps only as valuable as our ability to test the interface, but nothing more than that.

Anyone who wanted the site to grow, who had a brain, would be sharing creative content from here, and sharing it on other platforms.

If you need it spelled out anymore that that, here- https://hive.blog/community/@arseniclullaby/hive-vs-steemit-vs-anything-else-one-of-you-better-figure-out-how-to-matter

NOW THEN...AS AN ABJECT LESSON...AS A PERFECT EXAMPLE...of the thick skulled mentality that creatives here, have in their way, please look through these recent interactions with two such goofballs. I am posting all this BECAUSE, I'm not sure regular people understand out meaning when we say we are disrespected here. You can get your head around us being annoyed out posts are not shared cross platforms and such. But there is an entire mentality on here that is at the root of it all. I'm not sure I can put a words to it...pettiness, lack of ability to see the big picture, myopic-ness? It's best I just give you the examples.

In their first comments, and all the way through the exchange, their ignorance and disrespect shrieks out loud and clear. And it is not just the creatives who should pay attention...so to should anyone bright enough to realize the actual value to the site creatives bring.

FIRST, let me explain something to you non-creatives, each blog one of our posts have a certain amount of though, effort, and time put into it. A blog, a painting, a video, a story...these things take effort. Someone just coming along with a reply that not only has zero to do with the post we put effort into, but makes it clear they have not bothered to read it, is a giant insult.

...these two clowns posted their little pleas/links below blogs that the obviously had zero interest in. Why? Because they are what you call "half smart". They are smart enough to realize that the posts I make get traction, have a following larger than they could gather on their own. They see that people actually bother to follow my work and what I have to say. And a light bulb goes on over their head. They have something they want people to see, they see a blog getting a lot of eyes on it, so they post their link in the comments...like someone sticking a bumper-sticker for their store onto you car without asking.

The half smart part comes in where they are not bright enough to extrapolate the value of that ability to get eyeballs on something, to the whole platform.

Let's start with this jackass--

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(important to know here at the beginning that I post on Steemit and Hive in duplicate, and why would I not? As a creative I am looking to get eyes on my work at any opportunity)

He "responded" ( if you can call pasting a link into the comments section "responding") to a lengthy, funny, and thought out blog on steemit, with nothing more than a link to his blog about some witness drama he is embroiled in. He's never posted on my work before as far as I know, has NEVER reposted ANY creative types work on either platform. And up he jumps, upon seeing how much traction I get on blogs and pukes up a link to try help his own cause, MAKING NO MENTION AT ALL OF THE BLOG IN WHICH HE IS RESPONDING TO.

WHAT AN ABSOLUTE ASSHOLE.

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Think I was too hard on him? I don't. He then comes to the same blog on my Hive page, with a threat

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Let's all absorb that last part...

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I gave him the response he deserved...

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By all means, down-vote everything I've done and everything I do... in perpetuity! LOLOLOL.

Please @Pfunk demonstrate to the entire blockchain that which most of us already know. That in the end it is not centralization that is the problem, is it petty human beings who seek to punish those who say things they do not like. I didn't go to this assholes page and start busting his chops, he came to mine, uninvited...and he came with zero interest in anything I do other than that I could spread the word about HIS blog.

yes @pfunk HURT ME by downvoting the 10-15 odd HVD a post...Hahaha! That's not the value of this place to me, you insect. The value is the new eyes I was able to get on my work, and the word of mouth they spread.

This guy thinks I give a fuck about a downvote?

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He thinks that, because that's what matters to him., the power of his blockchain-vote. That is his motivation here, his motivation on steemit, his motivation for coming here from there...he wants to feel like a big fish, so he's happy with the pond being small, if it got bigger...bigger fish would come in, and he'd matter even less than he already does. That is HIS motivation and the motivation of all the small minded jerkoffs who have held these sites back, whether they realize it or not.

All you crypto investors, you think people like this want the site to get flooded with new users? New investors? new whales? of course not. So these clowns are actually a much larger problem for you, than for us. We can go anywhere. I wont lose my ass if everyone stops using this place.

on a side note..there is a second value to this site for me. A big one, even though it might seem trivial. When I type onto my actual website or wordpress page and have some sort of computer failure, if I didn't hit "save" that work is lost. BUT if I type it into this platform, it's instantly saved after each character I type. That has saved me A HUGE AMOUNT OF TIME that would have been wasted re writing something. So...I type it here first, copy and past it to my website to then send out as part of a mass email. My mass email list is around 10,000 people long including many creative types, publishers, stores, ect ( and a lot of people from steemit and hive).

I could probably use that list to raise some hell about this place, but why the hell would I do that? The people on my email list are already MY fans that I EARNED THE FANSHIP OF WITH MY HARD WORK. I should bring them here to help the blockchain why...when there is all of this sh*t--

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Where creative content providers are second class citizens, waiting for recognition behind an endless line of crypto talk?

Yeah...not at this time, maybe never.

This second person is more of the same, but reveals even more about the mentality of what is holding back this site and the crypto attached to it... I'm not going to cut and paste the whole thread, it's here if you're bored-- https://hive.blog/hive-164671/@arseniclullaby/great-eras-of-comic-book-titles-weird-tales-of-the-future

But if you are a creative type, or maybe even if you aren't, by this point you understand what the issue is.
Actually, I will cut out this little nugget as a high point ( or low point)-

A quick recap, this one posted some bullshit about badges and offered crypto in exchange for a witness vote in what was clearly a cut and past one size fits all scam...I mean "message". I laid into her about not bothering to comment on the blog, the work in it, or the quality of it. here was the response...

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I dare say none of us would have thought that our content and the quality of it was somehow separate from the "account" and it's "achievements". See, fools that we all are, we thought the content and it's quality is what caused whatever achievement we have accomplished here, be it crypto, followers, or longevity. They are separate in her mind, and no doubt in the mind of the first guy and in the minds of most of these dipshits.

At her request I looked at the "hivebuzz" page. It was following ONE person and I saw not one single solitary thing there that is going to bring in new people from outside of Hive. Just a lot of blockchain ramblings.

Perfect examples of the disconnect and lack of understanding of what makes something grow. Perfect examples of the constant disrespect the creative community here gets. Perfect examples of the mentality that has held back this blockchain since I came here.

BUT...this instant save thing is still pretty sweet. So, whatever these morons do to this site I'll keep using that, even if I never actually post anything. Plus there is a bunch of you on here I genuinely like.

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All those things you wrote, I've been think the same things about HIVE (and STEEM) but never was able to put them in line, and form something coherent. You did that excellently, you put every thought down and it not only makes sense, I guess (and hope) you made some people wake up and see things more clearly.

If I had to put all this in one sentence, it would be: "The smaller the pond, the bigger the fish seem." Fake motives about decentralization, democracy, novelty, etc and very catchy but have nothing to do with what is really going on: it's all about power and control inside a bubble.

We can HOPE some people got it. If not...we can always continue the party elsewhere!

That is his motivation here, his motivation on steemit, his motivation for coming here from there...he wants to feel like a big fish, so he's happy with the pond being small, if it got bigger...bigger fish would come in, and he'd matter even less than he already does.

That...

Is the most perfect description of 98% of the big "stakeholders" that live around here (and on the neighborhood)...

Thanks, that does sum it up doesn't it. for that matter it could be applied to many ventures in real life. Pettiness is regularly a problem in the way of progress.

Sorry to hear he was nasty to you. People are a bit pissed off generally right now. @pfunk was a big supporter of the open mic contest on Steem and other challenges. It's not all about crypto and that's a minor part of what I get out of it. Steem has failed to attract creative people and maybe Hive can be better. There is some idiot who downvotes creative stuff, but others could counter that. The big accounts have to decide if they want it to have a future.

I'll keep supporting the stuff I like. I've bought several print comics from people on here and am keen to buy more. That will all be via Hive now as I'm dumping Steem as it gets worse.

I can tell you this much, the attitude of superiority and tenancy to lash out by larger accounts on Hive is so far worse than it was/is for me on steemit. This isn't the first guy who downvoted me for something I said on my own page.

Who would think anonymous geeks could be arseholes? The good outweighs the bad for me.

hahaha, you're incredulity is a fair point.

Absolutely wild.