Bullying Doesn't Solve Anything -- Sure Says A Lot About the Bully -- Talking about you @mmmmkkkk311

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Every now and again someone thinks it’s a good idea to go on a self-appointed crusade to get rid of something they don’t like on the platform. There was grumpycat for a while. That account eventually powered down and disappeared.

Funny thing about bullies on Steem, they never come out in the open on who they are. They make full use of the anonymous nature of the platform and hide behind it. Cause stepping out and showing who they are while they attack others would actually take some courage.

Now there is @mmmmkkkk311. His target, the Steem Basic Income program run by @josephsavage.

@josephsavage

In case you are not aware, Joseph uses his real name. He’s shown up at Steem events. I broke bread with him, his wife Katie and his infant daughter at the Steem Conference in Toronto. As did others.

He has nothing to hide and he doesn’t hide. If you don’t understand the ins and outs of SBI, ask him. He will answer your questions fully and patiently.

@mmmmkkkk311

I’ve heard that mmmmkkkk311, once owned a bidbot.

Remember those, when people would send a bid in the hope of getting an upvote which would exceed how much they spent on the bid. In many cases, the bidder didn’t gain but the bot owner, usually did. If the bot owner didn’t gain, the delegators to the bot sure did.

It can be argued for small accounts who figured out how to bid in a way they received a return, it helped them grow. Not all did. Most small accounts hardly ever did.

From what I can see from mmmmkkkk311… he doesn’t seem real sure why he doesn’t like SBI. He’s called it vote selling, circlejerking, vote farming and best of all… a ponzi scheme with accusations that Joseph is going to take all the Steem and run.

The Basics of SBI

People don’t buy their way into SBI. Well, not without putting other people into SBI. I send Steem to SBI for whoever I want to have units. I receive a matching unit.

The acquired units accumulate over time. When people holding SBI post they receive an upvote in proportion to the amount of SBI in their pool on a limited number of posts.

The principle behind the program is those in it receive regular upvotes based on the units they have. They can transfer the units to others if they leave Steem. It’s as close to the concept of Universal Basic Income as can be had on the blockchain.

In my conversations with Joseph, he’s put a lot of time, thought and effort into keeping the economics of the program functioning, fair and sustainable. I am not about to suggest I understand the economics of it. If you are curious, talk to Joseph.

I Give SBI Away At PYPT

Every Thursday for over two years I’ve had done two post promotion shows on The Ramble discord. It’s a time when Steemians can take turns sharing posts of their own or others.

It’s a networking time. People get to know each other. Discussions take place. The topics can and often are varied.

During the show there are two giveaways. One is for SBI and the other is for my token SHADE. People have to be present to win as the prizes are for people taking part.

Why Don’t I Just Give Away Steem?

It’s really pretty simple. If I give away a Steem instead of an SBI the recipient may or may not power that Steem up. If they power it up, great, it adds to their SP and they can use that to grow. If they cash it out, well that is more drain on the system.

Giving SBI ensures the Steem is staying on the platform and also makes sure people receive an ongoing benefit no matter how small. For many starting out on Steem, getting those SBI units and the small upvotes that followed made the difference between them staying and leaving.

I provide PYPT as a place for people to get to know each other, to be encouraged to remain on the platform. SBI meets that need. Retaining members is important.

mmmmkkkk311 Doesn’t Care About Retention

I’m not alone in providing SBI as prizes for activity on the platform. There are many others like @pifc who has run a curation contest each week for almost 90 weeks to encourage people to find low earning posts and give them more exposure. His Pay It Forward Curation is also about retention.

Regardless of the way the SBI units are given, the common purpose behind doing so is to help people grow and stay on the platform.

What does mmmmkkkk311 do to help people grow and stay on the platform? — NOTHING

He does the opposite. He attacks with downvotes the people who receive SBI upvotes and people who give SBI units to others.

Yesterday I posted about a Witness Chat that I do every month in The Ramble discord. It’s an opportunity for witnesses, community members and the Steemit Inc team to come together to talk and learn. They are well attended.

The post received some good upvotes. Some of which I believe was a show of appreciation for the time I put into doing the Chats. I appreciate that.

This morning I issued some SBI units which had been won at PYPT. Sure enough, mmmmkkkk311 hit my Witness Chat post with a 100% downvote not long after.

Typical bully, just attack, cause he’s without the brains to do anything else. Use a big stick when there is no rationale argument in favour of your issue to be presented.

I’m not alone, he’s hitting others. In the past 14 days he’s done over 1100 downvotes on people’s posts. The DVs range from a single percent to 100%. He seems to be under the mistaken impression that if he keeps doing it, people will run away from SBI.

The only thing you will accomplish @mmmmkkkk311 is you will scare off some new people who don’t understand that you are just a bully and don’t really care for the platform.

You’re a butthurt former bot owner. If you had an ounce of thinking ability, you’d adapt and find another way to improve your stake on the platform. Instead you see how much damage you can try to inflict on a program that helps keep people here.

Bottom line, the giveaways will continue. You, the bully, can carry on trying to pound away at people for doing so. Once you get past those first 2.5 downvotes at 100% each day, it’s your voting power going to waste.

In fact after those free DVs, it’s a lot like downvoting yourself.

Have fun shooting yourself in the foot.

It’s your foot to shoot.

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People don’t buy their way into SBI. Well, not without putting other people into SBI.

it's vote buying... some will down vote it. Take that risk when buying sbi and maybe explain it to the person you gave them to also.

I have previously bought sbi and given them to others, expect they may get down voted for it. i would be peeved if they complained, as they received the up votes for free - not earned

my thoughts anyway

It's not really vote buying. Vote buying would be me buying a vote. I'm not buying a vote. I'm helping people receive sustained income. Tell me if there is something wrong with it.

Oh, and I just sponsored you because you received an upvote from @mmmmkkkk311.

Its buying votes. you bought me steem up votes derived from the daily reward pool by buying me SBI tokens. Not saying its right or wrong - just what it is.

My view is if you buy SBI tokens, you should get votes in SBI tokens which later you could trade for steem on the market if you wished.

thanks for the SBI, but i had them cancel voting on my stuff awhile back, got sick of my one word comments being pushed to the top and nobody to downvote them to where they belonged lol

All comment voting by SBI has since been stopped.

I don't really care that much. My comments don't get voted if I make more posts. The comment voting is I think just so that the weekly quota can be used. If someone only writes comments, that's where the votes will eventually be.

Tokens are pretty much useless though.

I give away 10 or more SBI each week to the Shadow Contest Winners and 2 shares every week on @abh12345's EL to the 2nd place winner for exactly the reasons you mentioned. I have been buying sbi since the program first came into being, and I will continue to support sbi.

good for you @melinda010100 ... no backing off to a bully.

I find our desire to run off ambitious and high quality business owners on our platform ridiculous, great post.

Thanks @whatsup ... one that is helping retain users is even a crazier move.

I'd of been much more heated and angrily stated my stance. Way to stay fairly civil Shadow.

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Well really @enginewitty once you get that image in your mind of him shooting himself in the foot... can you really get heated? LOL

Definitely was a pretty picture😝

Pimp that. Thank you for taking a stand on bullying and the cowardice behind it, @shadowspub.

thanks @jayna .. never had patience with bullies.

Me either. Makes my blood boil.

@jayna, I saw you here. We are on the same page. I think you might enjoy "Steem N' Roses", a post I made in response to all of this silliness.

Anyway, nice to see you around.

Hi @tristancarax. Good to hear from you! I will check it out.

Nice post. Let him have it!!!

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There’s more than a bit of irony in the fact that @mmmmkkkk311 owns 93 SBI units:
https://steempeak.com/@mmmmkkkk311/transfers

From that I heard, that is people trying to return idiot behaviour with kindness .. so they sent him SBI
Also heard he's on a blacklist so he wont get any votes from SBI until he's off the blacklist

He's blacklisted so the free money he was going to get is going to happen. The best he can do is change his attitude and be allowed back in or give away his shares to others who need them.

unwanted gifts from sbi members, I think, they were trying to "buy" me

Why don't you try "buying" us? I mean that might work.

@mmmmkkkk311 is attempting to use his flags to intimidate Steemians into abandoning their support for @steembasicincome.


He baselessly claims it is a "ponzi scheme" which just shows that either he doesn't understand how it works or (more likely) he just doesn't understand what a ponzi scheme even is! And the blatant hypocrisy in him trying to fight "vote selling" when that is exactly what he did with his bidbot! As as bidbot owner with over a dozen alt accounts he is in no place to judge what is right or wrong here on Steem. Now he is mad that his scam has ended. So like an upset child, he has decided to take out his anger (caused only by his own failures) on other innocent people. Making him nothing more than a big bully!

MK admits to running a bidbot

Actual account who was "wrecked by @mmmmkkkk311 (for holding sbi shares)"

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I am here to counter @mmmmkkkk311's bullying. I will upvote every post/comment that he downvotes. You can support my anti bullying upvotes by delegating (links below) Steem Power to @ilovemk311. And you can help keep this message visible by upvoting this comment or by purchasing SBI shares for @mk311isabully which will help to counter the downvotes that @mmmmkkkk311 will surely send my way. Which I highly encourage him to do as the more downvoting power he wastes on me the less he can use to downvote the real content creators here on Steem that would otherwise become his victims!

Choose a delegation amount

5 | 10 | 20 | 50 | 100 | 500 | 1000

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I ask YOU my fellow Steemians to help me take a stand for our Steem community.

With this jerk bullying innocent people we are seeing many great content creators leave due to the drama and negativity that @mmmmkkkk311's downvote campaign brings to the blockchain. While he claims he is trying to defend his investment he is actually unwittingly destroying it.

SBI is an initiative that has done nothing but help promote onboarding and community building here on the Steem blockchain. Let us not turn our back on it out of fear for getting downvoted. Instead lets stand up for this great initiative that has helped so many people and helped the Steem community to grow and thrive!

Thank you.

He attacks with downvotes the people who receive SBI upvotes and people who give SBI units to others

All Downvotes are going to vote buyers only.

You’re a butthurt former bot owner

haha, that's why I have stopped upvoting own posts and I'm telling everyone that I'm happy after H21. My curation rewards increased dramatically. You guys are trying to get more from your Steem Power than regular curation. Is it Fair Play? I don't think so, that's why every person who transfer STEEM to sbi will be downvoted.

your voting power going to waste

double STEEM burning, good for Steem ecosystem

Upvoting your own comment at 100%? Or any % for that matter @mmmmkkkk311 / @mariuszkarowski? And in doing so, you are our #newsteem role model / champion?

Are you blind? Payout is declined Stop trolling

Yes, while still attaining the same benefit of upvoting which is your comment is the first one the rest of us see. An accident? Right ...

You remove your upvote and I'll remove my downvote.

@mmmmkkkk311 is attempting to use his flags to intimidate Steemians into abandoning their support for @steembasicincome.


He baselessly claims it is a "ponzi scheme" which just shows that either he doesn't understand how it works or (more likely) he just doesn't understand what a ponzi scheme even is! And the blatant hypocrisy in him trying to fight "vote selling" when that is exactly what he did with his bidbot! As as bidbot owner with over a dozen alt accounts he is in no place to judge what is right or wrong here on Steem. Now he is mad that his scam has ended. So like an upset child, he has decided to take out his anger (caused only by his own failures) on other innocent people. Making him nothing more than a big bully!

MK admits to running a bidbot

Actual account who was "wrecked by @mmmmkkkk311 (for holding sbi shares)"

bully.png

I am here to counter @mmmmkkkk311's bullying. I will upvote every post/comment that he downvotes. You can support my anti bullying upvotes by delegating (links below) Steem Power to @ilovemk311. And you can help keep this message visible by upvoting this comment or by purchasing SBI shares for @mk311isabully which will help to counter the downvotes that @mmmmkkkk311 will surely send my way. Which I highly encourage him to do as the more downvoting power he wastes on me the less he can use to downvote the real content creators here on Steem that would otherwise become his victims!

Choose a delegation amount

5 | 10 | 20 | 50 | 100 | 500 | 1000

external-content.duckduckgo-1.jpg

I ask YOU my fellow Steemians to help me take a stand for our Steem community.

With this jerk bullying innocent people we are seeing many great content creators leave due to the drama and negativity that @mmmmkkkk311's downvote campaign brings to the blockchain. While he claims he is trying to defend his investment he is actually unwittingly destroying it.

SBI is an initiative that has done nothing but help promote onboarding and community building here on the Steem blockchain. Let us not turn our back on it out of fear for getting downvoted. Instead lets stand up for this great initiative that has helped so many people and helped the Steem community to grow and thrive!

Thank you.

Okay, we get it. Please stop with the comment spamming! Once is enough!

And this is why you up-vote your own comments? I know another person that talks out both sides of their mouth (I am not referring to me, as I also have that reputation, but a well known old timer of STEEM).

You are ridiculous! Have a great weekend, bully.

@mmmmkkkk311 is attempting to use his flags to intimidate Steemians into abandoning their support for @steembasicincome.


He baselessly claims it is a "ponzi scheme" which just shows that either he doesn't understand how it works or (more likely) he just doesn't understand what a ponzi scheme even is! And the blatant hypocrisy in him trying to fight "vote selling" when that is exactly what he did with his bidbot! As as bidbot owner with over a dozen alt accounts he is in no place to judge what is right or wrong here on Steem. Now he is mad that his scam has ended. So like an upset child, he has decided to take out his anger (caused only by his own failures) on other innocent people. Making him nothing more than a big bully!

MK admits to running a bidbot

Actual account who was "wrecked by @mmmmkkkk311 (for holding sbi shares)"

bully.png

I am here to counter @mmmmkkkk311's bullying. I will upvote every post/comment that he downvotes. You can support my anti bullying upvotes by delegating (links below) Steem Power to @ilovemk311. And you can help keep this message visible by upvoting this comment or by purchasing SBI shares for @mk311isabully which will help to counter the downvotes that @mmmmkkkk311 will surely send my way. Which I highly encourage him to do as the more downvoting power he wastes on me the less he can use to downvote the real content creators here on Steem that would otherwise become his victims!

Choose a delegation amount

5 | 10 | 20 | 50 | 100 | 500 | 1000

external-content.duckduckgo-1.jpg

I ask YOU my fellow Steemians to help me take a stand for our Steem community.

With this jerk bullying innocent people we are seeing many great content creators leave due to the drama and negativity that @mmmmkkkk311's downvote campaign brings to the blockchain. While he claims he is trying to defend his investment he is actually unwittingly destroying it.

SBI is an initiative that has done nothing but help promote onboarding and community building here on the Steem blockchain. Let us not turn our back on it out of fear for getting downvoted. Instead lets stand up for this great initiative that has helped so many people and helped the Steem community to grow and thrive!

Thank you.

Is not flagging those that have never bought into sbi a new thing in the last week? You used to flag my posts with a miniscule amount whenever I received an sbi vote, but that seems to have stopped.. I care way less about this than the shit people crank out for their auto votes daily. IMHO the way this place functions to reward content that's not even seen is disastrous and basically fucking dumb as fuck for a "social media platform" We have the same redundant cheerleaders spewing the same old shit getting their 30-100 USD value rewards daily and getting little to no engagement because all that matters is the circle jerk.. Plenty of garbage hits trending daily and only a handful of people flag that stuff. Free flags have even failed.

Ok boomer ye olde fuckstick

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@mmmmkkkk311 is attempting to use his flags to intimidate Steemians into abandoning their support for @steembasicincome.


He baselessly claims it is a "ponzi scheme" which just shows that either he doesn't understand how it works or (more likely) he just doesn't understand what a ponzi scheme even is! And the blatant hypocrisy in him trying to fight "vote selling" when that is exactly what he did with his bidbot! As as bidbot owner with over a dozen alt accounts he is in no place to judge what is right or wrong here on Steem. Now he is mad that his scam has ended. So like an upset child, he has decided to take out his anger (caused only by his own failures) on other innocent people. Making him nothing more than a big bully!

MK admits to running a bidbot

Actual account who was "wrecked by @mmmmkkkk311 (for holding sbi shares)"

bully.png

I am here to counter @mmmmkkkk311's bullying. I will upvote every post/comment that he downvotes. You can support my anti bullying upvotes by delegating (links below) Steem Power to @ilovemk311. And you can help keep this message visible by upvoting this comment or by purchasing SBI shares for @mk311isabully which will help to counter the downvotes that @mmmmkkkk311 will surely send my way. Which I highly encourage him to do as the more downvoting power he wastes on me the less he can use to downvote the real content creators here on Steem that would otherwise become his victims!

Choose a delegation amount

5 | 10 | 20 | 50 | 100 | 500 | 1000

external-content.duckduckgo-1.jpg

I ask YOU my fellow Steemians to help me take a stand for our Steem community.

With this jerk bullying innocent people we are seeing many great content creators leave due to the drama and negativity that @mmmmkkkk311's downvote campaign brings to the blockchain. While he claims he is trying to defend his investment he is actually unwittingly destroying it.

SBI is an initiative that has done nothing but help promote onboarding and community building here on the Steem blockchain. Let us not turn our back on it out of fear for getting downvoted. Instead lets stand up for this great initiative that has helped so many people and helped the Steem community to grow and thrive!

Thank you.



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