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RE: But self upvotes are the problem right?

People are so damn uptight anymore that it's not funny. On one hand they complain about self upvotes but then they have their hand in the cookie jar somewhere's else. In my opinion reading down through the comments below , I saw to downvotes. If you have even one you may as well just saved your time and picked your nose as to put up an article because a downvote murders your post. That or they hide it. I can see if the post was trash but most aren't. Hell they ought to take the downvote button off. Get rid of the bots first off that people make because they are just statistic counters for lazy people. If you have a legitimate gripe leave a comment below the article and talk about it instead of just trashing posts that normally would be okay to most community members. It's kind of like mob rule out here. It's hard enough to try to get footing in this space without getting kicked by other members because unfortionately their opinion counts. Just a few thoughts I had.

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Oh I’m with you. Does it not make sense to upvote good content then to waste a vote downvoting?

Things have calmed down quite a bit but still very annoying.