Mastering timing for trade

in #cryptocurrency7 years ago (edited)

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Warren Buffett has postulate "Better buy good stock at bad price than bad stock at good price". These words are very smart and true and when you are starting position in stock or crypto, you should follow that. I wrote an article how to invest in Cryptos and for those who didn't read it, here it is:
https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@cicbar/crypto-investing-guide

That article was how to start position and today I will try to explain my view, when is right timing to close some position.

First of all, it is ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO BUY AT LOWEST PRICE AND SELL AT HIGHEST PRICE.

Yes you gonna hear stories from people how they have bought or sold something with perfect timing but in reality only really small percentage of these stories are true. My friend @fullcoverbetting likes to bet on sport and I have many friends who like that. When you speak with them, they are winning all the time and if this is true, betting houses will be always in minus. Reality is much different, most of them are overal in minus but they are talking about success only when they win. Situation is same here with successfully catching lows and highs.

One month ago I have bought OKB, OKEx profit sharing token and I have wrote article about it:
https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@cicbar/okb-okex-profit-sharing-token-with-great-roi-at-current-price

That was great buy for me, because I have bought OKB at 1.7$ and price of OKB at moment is 6.33$.
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I could lie now how I have profit at almost 400% but in reality my profit is still great but smaller. I have sold OKB at 5$. I am very satisfied with my profit and I don't regret even if OKB goes to 100$.

This is very important rule so NEVER REGRET IF YOU SELL TO EARLY.

You can achieve this only if you set your goals and if you sell when you achieve your goals. We all have different goals and desires so there are no clear rules what your goals should be. I can say only that you should try to be realistic when you set your goals.

When I invest at stock market,I have two types of investments. I have stocks that I buy and never sell and stocks for trade. Never sell stocks are dividend stocks for my retirement portfolio and they must have business model that is immune to crysis. Other type of investments are trade stock. I buy them when price drops hard because of something but only if reason for price drop is not something that will damage long term business of company. My goal on this trade is to achieve 20% profit. Many times I have sold to early but I don't care if my goal is fulfilled.

At Crypto, for me is still only one never sell coin and that is BTC. Dough it doesn't have passive income, I strongly believe that long term price will be much higher so passive income will be reflected in price.

I believe in platforms so I plan to keep some of them for long term like NEO and EOS.

Beside that, I trade some Cryptos and when I do that, my goal is to double my investment so to reach 100% profit.

At OKB I had 300% profit so why I didn't sold at 3.5$?

I have rule, NEVER SELL WHEN YOUR INVESTMENT IS RISING UNTIL IT DROPS FOR TWO CONSECUTIVE DAYS.

If it drops after two days significantly under my 100% profit rule then I don't sell. If it is around it, then I sell. With this rule you will avoid many times early selling. That happened with my OKB investment. I made 300% profit.

These are sweet problem when we are discussing when to sell at profit but when is moment WHEN YOU SHOULD SELL AT LOSS?

MOST IMPORTANT RULE for me is NEVER BUY CRYPTOS WITH BORROWED MONEY.Then you don't have to sell if your investment is dropping hard.

I NEVER SELL AT LOSS IF REASONS WHY I HAVE BOUGHT SOME CRYPTOS HAVEN'T CHANGED

When we do our research we have our reasons why we have bought something. If that reasons are still there then you shouldn't sell. I sell at loss only if there is significant change and I see no point of keeping my position. If you do good research this shouldn't happen to often. I did this only few times in my life.

I would like to hear and discuss what are your goals and what rules you have. Sharing your experience can help us all becoming better investors.

Regards,

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Whatever your argument, I just don't like Warren Buffett anymore!!!

And YOU SHOUDN'T mentioned his name on steemit.

YOU SHOULD KNOW BETTER.lol

Buffett, Buffett, Buffett. Just joking man. I agree with you 100%. The old man may have once been a role model, but that was back in the fiat criminal central bankers days. (Before the age of Satoshi) We are free now. Free to make money from home with Steemit. Free to mine cryptocurrencies. Free to send money to anyone in the world who has a smartphone.

Besides, he is on that Fear Monger train to dispel anything and all that is good with crypto... only to protect fiat and the banking industry. It's all he knows and he will do or say anything to disrupt the crypto space. I don't trust him now.

Actually his stance on crypto is no different from his initial stance on technology. If he doesn't understand the product he takes a dim view of it. My how that has changed as witnessed by his AAPL holding.

AAPL is not BTC!

Correct! It's not about AAPL it's about the concept of understanding. Until Buffet spends some time understanding cryptocurrency his view will be negative toward it. As a buy and hold investor I doubt that he will spend the time to do so.

Ha, he doesn't likely have much time left to Hold onto anything for very long!

P.S. I like your moto at your profile :-)

Just a modified version of the "Golden Rule!" It would be a good thing if most everyone could live this way, huh? And I don't care for Warren Buffet lately myself.

We should learn even from people that we don't like. I hate what he is talking about crypto but that doesn't mean that we can't learn anything from him...

True. What I have learned lately is that I don't like his integrity. If he doesn't know anything about crypto, then he should say so instead of selling himself out for the benefit of his kind. Turned himself into a liar is what he has done.

+1 😁

Don't worry @cicbar. I will support you. Good post!

Thanks I appreciate it :)

That Warren Buffet quote hit me so hard.

Warren Buffet - He says a lot, but believe they do not understand what they're saying. And I do not know what will happen next!

Buffet is an investor of the past and no longer has the risk tolerance of those in the crypto market. He doesn't understand the market and thus his opinion on crypto is irrelevant.

Yes 100% right. It’s likr football player telling us how to play basketball.

I’m sure most of the core strategy can be applied for both old day and crypto investment. But crypto game it’s self more of a millennial game.

Why not? He is investor with good rules and I don't care if he hates Bitcoin. Some of his rules are doable at any investing strategy so they are good at Crypto investing also.

Hi Cicbar :)
Warren Buffett investment in like Coca-cola contribute to nearly 137,000 deaths a year from diabetes, 45,000 deaths from heart disease, and a few more thousand a year from Cancer.

So DO you like an investor who care more about the ROI than negative impact in the society ?

I would agree with you if people don't know how Coca Cola is unhealthy. Most of people know that it is bad but still drink it. It is not Warren Buffett's fault. Even I drink Coke sometimes with Pizza :-) I know what is your point but you know for sure that many factors have influence at diseases, not just Coca Cola. Usually people who drink Coke, live very unhealthy. Warren Buffett drinks Coke every day and he is 80+...

Warren Buffett era investment strategy = ROI with compounding interest

Crypto investment era = ROI with compounding impact.

And the world needs a lot of impact. So we’re here to help people and getting richer by doing good!

2018 + = WORLD LOVE II
1948 - = WORLD WAR II

+1 I hope we will get there :-)

I believe we'll get there!

It's what he puts in his coke that keeps him going! 😋

Ha ha! True!

lol, this makes me laugh of the day.

You are very true on this that don't trade with borrowed money. I remember when I trade ripple and I use borrowed money on marginal trade. I felt so greedy that borrowed so much then the ripple tank down and I lost all my ripple. I learned so much in that experience and never done that again.I can say that I am not an day trader but a long term investor. By the way good luck to all who are here in crypto, We can profit more money because of its infancy

You have said the reality about trading with Borrowed Money.
Thanks!

Same with me. I got burned for borrowing once but I was lucky that that lesson wasn't too expensive...

Like how you have divided your stock portfolio into Buy and Hold (Investing) and Variable Trade (Trading). Also agree with having an investing goal and sticking to it. This relieves some of the emotion out of trading. It can be very tempting to continue to hold a stock you are trading as it goes up (or down). However it is at your peril. If the thesis that got you into a stock holds then consider buying more if its going down or staying in if it's going up. If the thesis has changed, time to move on.

GREAT advice to not buy cryptos with borrowed money or on credit. Could force you to have to sell at a bad time.

Thank you :-)

Awesome trade highlights. I like your rule about never selling if the crypto is rising and has fallen for 2 days if it's not near your profit target. I like your honesty here - nobody can predict these price moves with perfect timing. I would also stress the fact that not trading with borrowed money is a cardinal rule! You have posted yet another great post, keep em coming!

Thanks! :-)

Those are some very interesting tips you have mentioned

thanks for the good info

Some nice advise got from your informative post. Specially, the point ‘never regret’ if the price goes high after your selling. Thanks.

thanks for the info

Steem at $3 seems like a good price to buy to me. lol

Agree. It was better buy sub 2$ but still is good buy for me...

Yeah We probably shouldn't ever see below $2 again but who knows. Right now it looks like we could stay above $3 but hard to say in the world of crypto. lol
Do you use @dustsweeper? My solo upvotes don't count.

No, never heard before for it. Look interesting, I like all things that are supporting new users.

Your solo U/V's may not count for earnings, but it does help someone's "Reputation!"

Thank you for sharing. i agree with you. Profitable trading is a lot of hard work. Each time I make a huge profit, greed takes over and I quickly lose all that I gained. Its hard work to maintain discipline when trading.