Announcing the Curangel Project - Curation Serving Everyone
Happy #newsteem everyone!
Now that the blockchain is (hopefully) stable, and our own code is feature complete, we're happy to announce our official launch!
Curangel was born from the idea to provide an alternative to bid bots or vote automation for stakeholders which are not interested in curating themselves, but don't want to watch inflation eating up their stake either. We engage a motivated team of experienced curators to find undervalued deserving content, and share the received rewards 80/20 between delegators and curators.
For delegators, that means they will receive ~40% of their vote value paid out daily without having to do any work and still supporting the concept of proof-of-brain and a wide range of authors. In addition to that, they can use our website to propose overrated posts to downvote, lowering the rewards for those posts without having to be afraid of direct retaliation.
Our curation team has a lot more freedom than with other projects. We don't enforce certain formatting rules, arbitrary quality standards, or focussing on new accounts. We are aware that every curator has a different understanding of what an underrated post is, and trust their common sense. That does not mean that we will turn a blind eye on abuse or circle voting though, the suggestions are watched and we will regularly evaluate the work of our team members.
To fully support the consciousness change in the community that the changes in HF21 are intended to bring, content creators who used bidbots in the last 7 days can not be curated. So if you hope to get a vote from us, make sure you do not buy votes elsewhere!
If the concept appeals to you and you decide to delegate, register on our website to get access to the downvote tool.
Should you be interested in curation, or just want to hang out with a bunch of enthusiastic steemians, join our Discord
Let's all make steem great again!
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It sounds a great project and I will take a second read to take it more clear in my mind.. thank you for your very informative publication..!!
great project please upvote mine
I upvote you and you come to my channel and downvote me? Wtf is going on here.... I put $thousands of my dollars and I even put 1.8 bitcoin at the all time Satoshi high and I’ve been getting nothing but rekt... and now you people want to remove my votes.... thanks.... thanks a lot steem community
The reason given by the delegator was "Blatant use of comment self voting, it is persistent and daily on every comment."
Looking at your recent voting history that cant be argued with.
Everyone has taken the same hit the last months. The reward pool is not intended to make up for your or anyone's investment losses.
Why don’t you go after haejin and ACTUALLY make a difference, some people need this money to LIVE
If you look at curangels history you will we several downvotes for haejin with way more weight than yours. Every delegator is free to choose what they do with their votes though, as long as they provide a valid reason.
If you depend on self-votes for your living you need to seriously rethink the choices you made in life. That was never expected to work, better get a real job asap.
Well not me I don’t live in Venezuela like the people complaining about abusive downvotes, I actually did go see that haejins posts have been flagged but how long will this last? I remember Bernie was able to do it for a week but gave up cause he was alone... if you people can now, under HF22 rules, tame haejin/ranchorelaxo and those alike then I really hope this means steem pulls up from its nosedive and reaches new all time high in dollars....
I actually want to make posts but why should I if “you” will auto downvote anything I post even if it’s a 3000 word article
Interesting approach!
This is shiny. I had a strong feeling I'd be seeing services like this pop up. Also looks like a safe project to delegate to, when I need to take a break or be away for awhile. Nobody here could convince me to vote blindly or provide the funds to do so, no matter how well it paid, for nearly three years. At least with something like this I know I can turn my back for awhile and not come home to a frikkin' disaster. I'm rambling, whatever, good job!
Ideal if you plan to take a long walk in the hills and may not return for a little while 🏔🏕🗻
Yes indeed. And I appreciate the reference/inside joke thing you just did there.
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😀 Define long, please.
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" I had a strong feeling I'd be seeing services like this pop up."
You didn't see them popping up here over the past 3 years, and the incremental destruction of the community that came along with them?
You feel actual curation will destroy a community?
No, I don't think actual curation destroys the Steem community.
Could you please read the comment you left for me again, then explain exactly what you mean, in a way that actually makes sense?
I don't understand why you don't understand, but I don't need to, so don't worry about it.
Just so you know: I can tell you didn't understand the post. I can see that you've made a huge mistake. At this point I'm just messing with you to see how far you'll take it.
This isn't a bid bot or a paid vote service. I don't support those and know they've been nothing but a menace for quite some time. The intention here is honest curation. No different than if I went over to a post and upvoted, for free, because I saw something I liked.
You should check yourself before you wreck yourself. I can see what you're doing in the comment section here. Playing the role of doom and gloom extraordinaire all while spreading misinformation helps destroy communities.
Just honest curation, nothing more. Okay. So why did they make a post to announce that they were going to curate honestly, nothing more? What's the big announcement here? Why are people lining up to give them money? Are they not expecting some kind of monetary return for that?
Thanks for admitting you're just messing with the comment section though. I'll mute you so I don't have to misunderstand you again.
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This is a simple curate trail where the operators take a 20% cut. lol
The content producers still see their full cut, which beats any bot or paid vote service in existence, by far, plus someone actually looked, instead of voting blindly, therefore deceasing the odds the system could be abused and shit content gets pushed to the top.
Why is it funny though, to give people a cut of the profits for curating, when that's what happens every time someone votes?
I run a delegation to upvote service that still pays out plus 16% per year to delegators.(not this account) This is the real alternative to bidding bots.
This curation trail going by steemworld stats has an avg efficiency and weighted avg of 50%, which is avg at best to be honest. Further more, it is projected to make around 90 STEEM per day in curation rewards which is a miserable 6.5% per year on a half million SP balance and that's before operators take their 1-2% cut as well. My true alternative earns 25 STEEM per day in curation from a 50k SP balance and use's 90% of the curation rewards to power up the bot through leasing extra SP to ensure members/delegators get the best ROI possible.
2 minutes on steemworld and shows a wealth of information. I was very interested when i first seen this project as it was featured so i thought it was something special and new. That lasted about 30 seconds, its pretty easy to see it's an old idea with some........
Your service supports content producers? Could you share a few links to this content or direct me to the account doing the upvoting please.
Also. Could I see some proof of 16%? Could you show me last year's results?
@steemcryptosicko
A 1000 SP delegation gets a daily 33% upvote from CryptoSicko. This is currently worth 0.20 STU.
0.20 STU converts to 0.49 in STEEM rewards. If a delegator were to post everyday for 1 year, they would earn 178.85 STEEM on a non leap year which is 17.8% per year plus an additional 22.5 STEEM for 1 years STEEM inflation. Last time i worked out 30 days then 12 months which is only 360 days. Here's my avg's.
Not trying to be a hater are anything, i just dont like that is being branded as an alternative bidding bot when it clearly a curation trail. I use all members delegated SP plus 90% of curation rewards to fund extra SP through leases. This is the true alternative to bidding bots.
Like I had stated already. In three years, nobody here could convince me to vote blindly or provide the funding to do so. A had stated I'd feel comfortable delegating to curangel, while away (meaning I'm not posting and most likely far away from an internet connection) because they're offering actual curation. I can trust they wouldn't be applying my name or funds to garbage and there's a better chance someone who's producing quality will also power up and hold some, meaning I'm not contributing to selling pressure. A lot of folks who sign up to these voting pyramids like you're offering often do it and ditch those rewards once received, but not always.
Also, by the sounds of it, your operation can't scale. That's only 30 votes per day, roughly; the voting power must have time to charge. How would you manage those numbers if you had more than the current 45? As it stands now you can't keep up with demand offering a 33% vote daily. The more who come, the less they'll get.
What you're attempting isn't anything new. You're offering a simple handout after receiving delegation. These things are often abused, much like bid bots.
Soon enough those recipients will shit post, since the money is guaranteed, some may get downvoted. You lose again, simply because there's nobody monitoring it. There's no guarantee on those leases either.
I'm more interested in something that would encourage content producers to perform well, especially when it's my money involved. I'm looking at your list and already see one name that was once busted for art fraud (I was the one who busted him), well known bidbot abuser and copy/paster. Offering "easy money" often attracts scum, but not always. If I'm delegating, I'm doing it because I'm away, and I want to ensure that money goes to someone who deserves it, since it's called a "reward." I'm not interested at all in finding ways to extract tokens out of the "reward" pool as if we're mining. A lot of folks here frown upon that behavior (not all) and if it's deemed to be abusive, in come the free downvotes, since we now have a method to take care of these things.
I'm not saying what you're doing is shit, I'm simply not interested. It wouldn't make sense for me, at all. My solo efforts brought in 370 STEEM this past week, plus many more Steem Engine tokens. Posting quality and curating manually with my own SP gained from posting quality beats these little get rich quick schemes every time. All I invested was time and don't have to place my trust in a middleman. And I'm not bragging. Half the time I'm dead tired, burnt out, like now. Sorry if I've repeated myself. Yours won't appeal to me ever though simply because I'd be looking for something trustworthy while I'm away, and not able to post daily. Leaving it up to curators instead of voting blindly is much like having a house sitter. I wouldn't have to worry about coming home and having my name plastered all over shit posts that got downvoted to nothing. I'm sure your service might appeal to some but keep in mind: There's all types here and we have different needs.
You make alot of fair points and i guess we each have our own steemit experience's dependent on whats happening in life.
CryptoSicko does not vote on people equally and scaling is not a problem. A 33% upvote is what someone that has 1000SP delegated receives. I have been running it almost a year now with most members upping levels. It's an upvoting bot and curation rewards are used to pay for extra SP leases. That's the difference and why ROI is so good for people that upload content everyday are at least 4 time per week.
This project maybe better fits your needs but i can you tell you there is better paying delegation projects out there. If you into it cause of a trust thing are you really wonna help support underrated project, than more power to you :)
It's my bedtime, 5am, haha. I have work tomorrow, there no get rich quick here my friend
It is (for now) the only alternative for those stakeholders who don't want to vote indifferently on content just for the ROI, those who want to support real content creators, those who realize that a 10%+ return on a token with an inflation rate <10% is not sustainable.
Your project isn't much different from bid bots. Stakeholders extract the value, while new users who provide the actual interesting content to the platform are left with scraps and thus do not have a reason to stay around. In the end it costs everyone, as those extractors create constant downward pressure on the price. If you have 5 or 50% ROI, when your token drops by 90% in value per year, you lose.
The operators don't take a cut btw. The 20% go to the manual curators, who are an equally important part for the success of the platform as content creators.
Interesting project, for sure the post fork phase needs projects like this. discord link seems expired though.
Thank you!
People are joining the discord, so it has to work. Don't know what the issue could be.
Probably problem of my discord then!
That sounds like a great initiative! Good luck with it!
Excellent initiative and a very healthy alternative to vote selling which is content indifferent and undermines the POB process we're founded on
I would love to see more of these projects kick into gear and compete against each other
Stakeholders can choose based on returns or content type etc. or perhaps diversify risk by spreading stake over multiple curation networks
I highly encourage all currently operating vote selling networks (bid bots, direct sellers etc.) to pivot their own businesses into this area
Thank you!
As much as I would love to see more manual curation, I doubt that it's possible to make a business out of it. Delegators will receive way less return from us than what they're used to, and for our curators it's more about the love of curation and steem in general than making money. So it's not feasible to take a cut from either of both.
Who knows. When bid bots become unprofitable and delegators accept that the ROI of the past won't come back, maybe. I've seen that some added manual curation in the mix to not lose their delegators as they don't seem to sell as much as before any more, that's a good first step for sure.
I agree
It's hard to tell where the economic equilibrium will eventually set but I'll definitely do my part to make curation competitive by making vote selling as unprofitable as possible.
I don't really expect manual curation will compete with automatic curation, but either is far and away superior to a vote selling market which completely undermines POB and is what I believe the only realistic outcome of the previous broken economic system.
Maybe in the future you could turn this into a more general project where multiple curators can sign up and charge whatever rates as they see fit as well as any principles they use 'eg Supporting art, supporting X community, maximizing ROI etc'. Then you can tally it all up and people can order them by their approaches or by proven post fees ROI. On the other side, stakeholders can choose whomever to delegate. If the place starts looking more honest, I imagine some stakeholders won't even be looking to maximize ROI and are somewhat willing to take a small ROI hit to support a voting initiative they believe in specifically.
Anyway this is a great pivot for our entire ecosystem. Let's make honest curation (be it manual or automatic or hybrid) the norm. Ultimately even in pure ROI, with free downvotes floating about bot curation will also have to adapt quickly to manual downvoting habits.
There are manual curations such as Steem Follower but the problem is no one uses them. How do you convince people to use them?
just like how there's a page that aggregates bid bots, in the future I'd imagine there to be a page that aggregates curators, lists their fees, ROI, specialization etc, and stakeholders can go and delegate/follow accordingly
Now that’s an awesome idea. I wonder how nobody had mentioned it till now. It would make everyone’s life easier. Brilliant
Sounds like it could be good. There is so much great content that makes very little. It should not just be about who you know. We need real curation rather than proof of bot. Good luck with the project.
Glad to see the official announcement, I shall be delegating here soon enough 😎
bro you are also too good, you are supporting real content creators♥
Very much in the spirit of #newsteem!