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RE: Buildawhale is no longer selling votes effective immediately

in #curation5 years ago

I have to say I am sorry to see that end and I understand completely why you are doing it. It really upsets me that even good thoughts with standards like yours are targeted. There is room for both curation and responsible Bots on the Block Chain. Sadly in their bid to destroy Bots they completely ignore good content that at times comes with it. I found this to be hypocritical and disingenuous. Just my view not going to change anything but oh well. Appreciate your frankness and hope all is well.

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Buying a vote for high quality content does not improve the quality of the content, for the content was high quality before the vote was purchased.

Negating the effects of a paid vote with a downvote does not diminish the quality of the content, for the content was of high quality before the downvote was placed upon the paid vote.

No it just drives the creators of that content away because they are not doing as you wish. Doesn't matter to me but it's hypocritical when I see post from you that use tipu and several others in the movement. Honestly you're never going to agree with me we've done this dance already. The point I make is valid content matters and a blanket statement that all Bots are bad is stupid and juvenile. Have a good one

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First of all, I don't purchase votes. Tipu has been supporting my work organically. Tipu made the decision to vote for my work, not me. You're accusing me of being a hypocrite, for no reason other than the fact you didn't realize I'm not purchasing votes. I don't purchase votes. It says that at the end of every post I publish. I do not purchase votes. Even if you want to accuse me of purchasing votes, that doesn't mean I purchase votes, it just makes you a liar. Don't use lies in an attempt to make me look bad, for all that does is make you look bad. You owe me an apology, and in the future, when you decide to accuse people of things, you better get your facts straight. Buildawhale is now curating, much like Tipu. If buildawhale decides to support a post of mine, would it makes sense to accuse me of being a hypocrite? Would it makes sense to say I used buildawhale if buildawhale came along and voted for something of mine? No need to answer that. You and everyone else reading knows that makes no sense whatsoever.

Secondly. The content producer who leaves because they don't want to work towards gaining organic support is in the wrong business. You cannot publish a book, purchase every copy yourself, and call yourself a success.

There was no acusation of you buying from Tipu; I said using tipu. You guys blanket all bots as bad but don't mind them when they benefit you whether they upvote you or you use their service. Thats hypocritical and as for me apologizing ypu can keep waiting since you misread what I said. By the way the reason minnows used bots in the first place was because Whale wouldn't pay attention to good content half the time. It's a creators right to try and get their work seen whether you agree with the method or not. Have a good one.

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"Using tipu"

Explain to everyone how I'm using tipu if tipu decides to vote for my post, or any other post.

If I vote for you, are you USING @NoNamesLeftToUse?

You do not make any sense at all.

If I support organic curation, and an account that sells or used to sell votes supports my work organically, how does that make me a hypocrite?

It does make sense. You label all bid bots Bad. If the devil gives you a compliment its still the devil. That's all I am saying. Told you mate we will never agree. Have a great one.

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That's ridiculous, and you don't make sense.

Have a nice day.

I totally agree with what you sa but i find this funny

Secondly. The content producer who leaves because they don't want to work towards gaining organic support is in the wrong business.

Because many of the ones that beleived in getting organic support left when they realized only a few of us were givin it and all the other hypocrites were leasing to bidbots.

Steem has made so many mistakes that i dont know if the honest users still here amount to any percent.

the scammers and farmers will always get a good return for their 0 effort.

i used to do a lot of shit and i used to like writting, but i consider myself wasting my time writting this comment.

Too little too late...

that should be the steemit motto.

i enjoy the steem blockchain code though

I know more people were getting paid to look away, in an attention economy, and that's doing it backwards.

Those people purchased "Visibility" and the more they paid people to look away, the less visibility they'd get, and they did that all to themselves. The people purchasing votes were offering others an incentive to NOT look at content, with every vote they purchased, and that behavior was marketed as 'visibility.' The more votes people bought, the more money people made for not being around here to consume the content. If you paid me to not come to your store and buy the merchandise, you would not be able to sell the merchandise, and slowly go bankrupt. How this basic business common sense flew over so many heads here has always baffled me.

One cannot purchase actual eyes no matter how hard they try. Just like commercials on television, many refused to look at posts with paid votes. The people purchasing the votes did not know that.

Now, more and more, people are being paid to look. That's what curation rewards are. People literally get paid to be entertained and that concept has enough potential to flip the entire entertainment industry on its head, yet that potential has not been realized yet because for some strange reason, people around here don't know about the billions generated by the entertainment industry, annually. They're sitting around waiting for investors and speculators instead of embracing the millions of people who sit on their asses all day consuming content online and spending money to do so, all while getting nothing in return.

If we're going to pay people, what they're being paid for needs to be beneficial to all involved.

You're right when you say many left when they realized there weren't enough curators. Thousands left. One cannot expect to feel successful performing in front of an empty venue every single day.

I've battled through everything here. Never purchased a vote. Curated manually 27568 times. That was a lot of content to consume, plus a few comment upvotes as well. I didn't mind doing things the honest way. I'll continue down that path.

I disagree with you're too little too late quip but I do know how frustrating this place can be at times.