Mmm I would have to read up more on e8 because they are obviously just doing the sales pitch instead of really giving any info away.

Yes, that video was just a fluffy version of the work to make it more understandable and viewable for the general public ;) But there were some dots connected for me in that video and I find it very promising. I have a strong hunch they are on the right path.

Here's another dot to connect in relation to E8. The Golden Ratio (Phi) Emerges from E8 Golden Ratio

The problem with E8 is that it is in direct conflict with the work being done on string theory. E8 is also being independently studied outside of the 'controls' of mainstream science. So, in researching this further, you are going to run into a lot of this push back. A lot of noise.

I don't mind the idea that the masses perception should be controlled to a degree, given that is the world we live in now. Obviously, that would be a hard sell to be like "Hey we will control you until you are able to truly think for yourselves." There might even be people now that do that but there are far more doing it for the wrong reasons, and they already have their own perception and then you end up with what they perceive is good is actually bad and a rabbit hole opens and swallows the world.

In the perfect world, Pen. It's not a perfect world. There are people influencing perception that do not have our greatest good in mind. Then you have the scenario like the book, "The Giver" where society is controlled to keep things at an even keel - no highs or lows - everyone and everything is exactly the same, every day with no learning or innovation, no creativity or free thinking. Sure, there is no disease, there is no war or violence, there is no sadness...but there is only this grey world. I do believe that a lot of the bad going on in the world is due to social engineering and controlled perception. Maybe I'm too much of an idealist that I'm not being enough of a realist, but I think most people - given the opportunity - would choose a better world. There will always be those that want that control and power, but that's something that 'we' need to address within ourselves - why do we give away our power? Why do we fall for the division?

I can understand the global connection as I feel the brain has so much power (literally) that if a big enough impact is made on someone they can transmit that to someone else, or even just to something which has that capacity and through this you find yourself having a day that just feels a bit off, feels like Wednesday but it is Thursday. It feels like there is something else you should be doing. If only you knew what and why you are feeling quieter, is it alive you should have been saving has that life now been lost. Is that final 5minutes of this oddly out of sync day where you take a smoke at the end and just look but don't think the final 5 minutes of your connection?

Yes, I agree very much with this - we definitely impact each other every day. It matters.

As well, whether we feel connected or not....we are still connected. I think what you just described is just the process of trusting those feelings and following through. Trusting yourself to take that right turn when you always drive straight. I think we are delving into the spiritual here at the end....we are always connected IMO. Actions/inactions have consequences, but we remain connected whether we're aware or not. It just makes it a lot easier if we are paying attention.

we can and should push for people to change their perception on many things in this world the things that are so evidently apparent to many but seemingly of no consequence to many more. I think that once we can do that and maybe with all the new data there is a way to just go hey look these are the facts these physical things you are bombing each other about is wrong. you as a country as a government as an individual inside an imaginary border you as the world need to first, conform and follow so that we as a species as a society may go beyond what we see.

It is my experience that people's perceptions are their own and to force otherwise doesn't do anything. Now, I do think that being an example of that change or showing a different way is more effective in changing hearts and minds. And I think from a very young age, perceptions are formed. We need to determine what the problem is first so that we don't repeat it in the next generations.

I hope I understood your comments right and answered with some coherency back LOL

All important thoughts and thank you for taking so much time and energy to respond back. Always appreciated.