I was thinking the same thing, I thought Dom and Michael got along; Dom shares the Unmasking videos on all his channels, spreading the word and making fun of Diddly, wonder what happened :/
I'll go through the cognitive science behind it in part 5, but to summarize: When you're told the same lie over and over and over again it exhausts you mentally so it's easier to just accept it as the truth than to resist it. It's quite literally brainwashing.
I have 500 pages of videos, posts and comments by the narc repeating the same lies. 500 pages. He is perfectly aware that if he repeats the same lies enough times it'll become the truth, doesn't matter how ridiculous lie is.
not sure, he left a slightly criptic message on a video of mine (a message i cant find now) which didnt make much sense, it was like he was talking to a-bas-le-ciel (who he obviously has beef with) but also refering to diddly, but in a message to me. i thought it was a mistakenly copied and pasted comment on the wrong video... i cant find it now. i think there are some wires getting crossed. not said anything negative about hannah
"What was her name again, Hannah Chloe, she regretted that one, didn't she [...] well done diddlyroider, well done".
Timestamp: 8 minutes and onward.
At this point, with all the info that has come out to STILL name Hannah and promote this lie, it's so disgusting, and so insulting. Completely ignoring what Hannah said in her video and talk about regret, wtf?
Have I not made it clear enough what part 5 is about? You must know because you're using part 5 as clickbait. Another shitty thing to do btw.
Suggestion: Make a voice call with Dom Bower soon and get things sorted out. This conflict only benefits The Narc.
I think Dom is totally on your side, Michael, and did not mean to spread the Narc's lie. His words were not thought through. That being said I can see why you and Hannah are offended.
I think you have missunder stood my mocking of diddlyroider and thought i was insulting hannah. she did have a relationship with harley, in the sense of she knew him, she helped him, he pestered her and forced himself on her in a way. and in this video i say "its not gone too well for diddy, single male virile ... sterile in third world countries charming young girls.... I am not saying diddlyrider should not have friends with young teen girls, but he does have a Reputation.. i cant remember what that reputation is..."
then i make the quip about hannah saying she regretted that one. regretted in that she regretted ever being one of the people that hung out with him.
if you see that as a massive insult and promoting a lie, i am sorry. and happy to make a formal appology on my channel to you if you so wish. no beef
I understood that you were mocking diddlyroider, but the way you talked about her takes away from the seriousness of what he has done. Of course you don't know all the details, but I think you'll understand once you've seen part 5.
There have been so many videos repeating his lies saying things like, "Hannah regretted it, Hannah lied, and if a crime was committed why didn't she report it to the police?" The thing is that she actually has reported it to the Police, people just don't know that yet.
As you can see by Hannah's account here on Steemit, she doesn't even use her name anymore because of all of this. She left YT in 2016 and just wanted to be forgotten, but is still brought up, named and shamed. What is it that Hannah should regret? She hasn't done anything wrong, she was targeted by a criminal.
There was no "relationship", or "affair" as Eisel liked to call it. I know these words can mean different things, but in this context they're both inappropriate. Hannah barely knows the narc. She never "hung out with him", he has shown up at public events and filmed her like the stalking creeper he is. The only way he could get Hannah to "hang out with him" was to pretend like he needed her help to make channel art/ebook cover.
Anyway, please no apology video. Your apology here is more than enough, and we appreciate your support in general. No beef :)
haha dombower sucking the nutsack of hebo to get some attention xD
What about those videos on youtube with hannah hanging out with durianrider ordering pizza, eating at taste from heaven, riding bikes around town and him giving her a b12 shot in the park? What about the voice recordings and what about her going back his hotel room all those times? Id call those PRIVATE EVENTS DOCUMENTED and will be released in part 6!
I could be wrong, but I think the 8 minutes and onwards is an old video. I don't think your unmasking series was out then. I disliked Harley, but even I was beveling his lies about Hannah back then. I don't think Dom holds them believes anymore. I think Dom just made a slight mistake.
I think we all have to keep in mind that real people with real pain are involved. Feeling invalidated even unintentionally is extremely hurtful. Authentic and honest communication will help.
Exactly. People think this is all entertainment and fun and have no idea what kind of hell Hannah has been through. I literally lost 15kg because I completely lost my appetite during the time, watching someone trying to destroy someone you care about and having a whole community cheering him on.
It's especially frustrating because we can't get justice through the legal system, so I've had to take matters into my own hands. I have a lot better things I'd like to spend my time on than this bs!
I hope that's the case. It's extra disappointing being Dom, because he's one of the few "normal" guys in the vegan yt community. He's not Eisel or Charles, who are clearly pretty troubled individuals.
I'm sure you can understand how frustrating it was that people believed the lies. And how frustrating it is for me that I have to waste my time and energy on an absolute loser in life, a complete nobody. Trust me, I have far better thing to spend my time on. People like Dom naming Hannah and talking about regret is not helping, old video or not. Hannah left the platform two years ago, I think she deserves to not be brought up anymore.
Agreed, it’s time to leave her be, and only share the best of who she is if she is ever mentioned. I do think that Dom overstepped here, but it was very good that he owned it.
I understand because I’m personally living it right now. The amount of mental strength we need to stay calm and keep functioning is enormous.
Non Serviam!
That’s just my opinions but I think he wasn’t making fun of Hannah even if he seems to talk about it like a joke in the video, he was sarcastic about Harley . I remember watching dombowe’s video about hannah’s Video on Harley, that was before the unmasking series and he was on Hannah’s side. So I can’t tell about this video, I do understand you feeling, after all what happened those kind of words can hurt, but you should talk in private with him, that’s looks like a misunderstood. Please ( my English is weird, sorry I’m not a native )
yep, i was saying she regretted having a relationship with harley. i was talking the piss out of harley. sorry michael if you think i said some lies about hannah. indeed this was an old video pasted onto the end of a recent one.
I know this has to be hard on Michael, I’m sure Dom has no idea how hard or he would have worded things differently. We are all here supporting Michael’s efforts to get justice. I’ve been duped by Harley and Charles Marlowe and I’m ashamed about that now and will do everything in my power to do my part (even if it’s just sharing videos) to get the TRUTH out there. I’m sure Dom will do the same regardless of the misunderstanding.
I'm just not fine with him saying incredibly insulting things about Hannah. Spreading lies about her and having a laugh about it.
I have no idea why he comes here like it's all good as I made myself perfectly clear in the comment I wrote to him.
me? saying things about hannaH? i thought that comment you left was a troll account. can you explain.
I was thinking the same thing, I thought Dom and Michael got along; Dom shares the Unmasking videos on all his channels, spreading the word and making fun of Diddly, wonder what happened :/
I'll go through the cognitive science behind it in part 5, but to summarize: When you're told the same lie over and over and over again it exhausts you mentally so it's easier to just accept it as the truth than to resist it. It's quite literally brainwashing.
I have 500 pages of videos, posts and comments by the narc repeating the same lies. 500 pages. He is perfectly aware that if he repeats the same lies enough times it'll become the truth, doesn't matter how ridiculous lie is.
This is dom, not diddlyroider. i am confused.
it seems michael thinks i have said something. not sure what, or when. was all on his side. at a bit of a loss myself here
Maybe there were some comments on this post that got deleted and now it makes no sense? I'm confused too :/
not sure, he left a slightly criptic message on a video of mine (a message i cant find now) which didnt make much sense, it was like he was talking to a-bas-le-ciel (who he obviously has beef with) but also refering to diddly, but in a message to me. i thought it was a mistakenly copied and pasted comment on the wrong video... i cant find it now. i think there are some wires getting crossed. not said anything negative about hannah
So strange. I hope this is some kind of misunderstanding :/
Which video? :( maybe someone uses an account with your name ?
"What was her name again, Hannah Chloe, she regretted that one, didn't she [...] well done diddlyroider, well done".
Timestamp: 8 minutes and onward.
At this point, with all the info that has come out to STILL name Hannah and promote this lie, it's so disgusting, and so insulting. Completely ignoring what Hannah said in her video and talk about regret, wtf?
Have I not made it clear enough what part 5 is about? You must know because you're using part 5 as clickbait. Another shitty thing to do btw.
Suggestion: Make a voice call with Dom Bower soon and get things sorted out. This conflict only benefits The Narc.
I think Dom is totally on your side, Michael, and did not mean to spread the Narc's lie. His words were not thought through. That being said I can see why you and Hannah are offended.
I agree with this. It's an old video Michael, he probably didn't realize. Take care you all.
I think you have missunder stood my mocking of diddlyroider and thought i was insulting hannah. she did have a relationship with harley, in the sense of she knew him, she helped him, he pestered her and forced himself on her in a way. and in this video i say "its not gone too well for diddy, single male virile ... sterile in third world countries charming young girls.... I am not saying diddlyrider should not have friends with young teen girls, but he does have a Reputation.. i cant remember what that reputation is..."
then i make the quip about hannah saying she regretted that one. regretted in that she regretted ever being one of the people that hung out with him.
if you see that as a massive insult and promoting a lie, i am sorry. and happy to make a formal appology on my channel to you if you so wish. no beef
I understood that you were mocking diddlyroider, but the way you talked about her takes away from the seriousness of what he has done. Of course you don't know all the details, but I think you'll understand once you've seen part 5.
There have been so many videos repeating his lies saying things like, "Hannah regretted it, Hannah lied, and if a crime was committed why didn't she report it to the police?" The thing is that she actually has reported it to the Police, people just don't know that yet.
As you can see by Hannah's account here on Steemit, she doesn't even use her name anymore because of all of this. She left YT in 2016 and just wanted to be forgotten, but is still brought up, named and shamed. What is it that Hannah should regret? She hasn't done anything wrong, she was targeted by a criminal.
There was no "relationship", or "affair" as Eisel liked to call it. I know these words can mean different things, but in this context they're both inappropriate. Hannah barely knows the narc. She never "hung out with him", he has shown up at public events and filmed her like the stalking creeper he is. The only way he could get Hannah to "hang out with him" was to pretend like he needed her help to make channel art/ebook cover.
Anyway, please no apology video. Your apology here is more than enough, and we appreciate your support in general. No beef :)
Yay! Now this is how proper adults handle conflict!, bravo!
haha dombower sucking the nutsack of hebo to get some attention xD
What about those videos on youtube with hannah hanging out with durianrider ordering pizza, eating at taste from heaven, riding bikes around town and him giving her a b12 shot in the park? What about the voice recordings and what about her going back his hotel room all those times? Id call those PRIVATE EVENTS DOCUMENTED and will be released in part 6!
You are both lovely people, I'm glad you worked it out <3
I could be wrong, but I think the 8 minutes and onwards is an old video. I don't think your unmasking series was out then. I disliked Harley, but even I was beveling his lies about Hannah back then. I don't think Dom holds them believes anymore. I think Dom just made a slight mistake.
I think we all have to keep in mind that real people with real pain are involved. Feeling invalidated even unintentionally is extremely hurtful. Authentic and honest communication will help.
Exactly. People think this is all entertainment and fun and have no idea what kind of hell Hannah has been through. I literally lost 15kg because I completely lost my appetite during the time, watching someone trying to destroy someone you care about and having a whole community cheering him on.
It's especially frustrating because we can't get justice through the legal system, so I've had to take matters into my own hands. I have a lot better things I'd like to spend my time on than this bs!
I hope that's the case. It's extra disappointing being Dom, because he's one of the few "normal" guys in the vegan yt community. He's not Eisel or Charles, who are clearly pretty troubled individuals.
I'm sure you can understand how frustrating it was that people believed the lies. And how frustrating it is for me that I have to waste my time and energy on an absolute loser in life, a complete nobody. Trust me, I have far better thing to spend my time on. People like Dom naming Hannah and talking about regret is not helping, old video or not. Hannah left the platform two years ago, I think she deserves to not be brought up anymore.
Agreed, it’s time to leave her be, and only share the best of who she is if she is ever mentioned. I do think that Dom overstepped here, but it was very good that he owned it.
I understand because I’m personally living it right now. The amount of mental strength we need to stay calm and keep functioning is enormous.
Non Serviam!
That’s just my opinions but I think he wasn’t making fun of Hannah even if he seems to talk about it like a joke in the video, he was sarcastic about Harley . I remember watching dombowe’s video about hannah’s Video on Harley, that was before the unmasking series and he was on Hannah’s side. So I can’t tell about this video, I do understand you feeling, after all what happened those kind of words can hurt, but you should talk in private with him, that’s looks like a misunderstood. Please ( my English is weird, sorry I’m not a native )
yep, i was saying she regretted having a relationship with harley. i was talking the piss out of harley. sorry michael if you think i said some lies about hannah. indeed this was an old video pasted onto the end of a recent one.
I know this has to be hard on Michael, I’m sure Dom has no idea how hard or he would have worded things differently. We are all here supporting Michael’s efforts to get justice. I’ve been duped by Harley and Charles Marlowe and I’m ashamed about that now and will do everything in my power to do my part (even if it’s just sharing videos) to get the TRUTH out there. I’m sure Dom will do the same regardless of the misunderstanding.