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yeah jax has the exploit where people got hacked and lost over 400k worth of eth wont be using that

Technically that was an OS exploit and not a jaxx exploit, but yes the did not encrypt their phrase file. I stopped using jaxx when they were having Dash issues. It was a blessing because it made me pull the trigger on buying my ledger. It "just works"

dont you still need a "hot wallet" to go from to your ledger?

Nope. I mine all my cryptos directly to my ledger wallet. Cept for Monero

any thoughts on the exodus wallet (generally)? Ledger has crazy long delivery times now and I am still waiting.