RE: Post Flag Abuse Complaints On This Post
@fulltimegeek, @berniesanders is calling a truce (as explained to you in a DM from @theycallmedan) since there has been no response I am bringing it here in hopes to get an agreement before the given deadline.
Details
Stop your flags immediately (to Bernie’s accounts and Themarkymark). Going forward no spamming, flagging, or trolling from either side. He will retire the lyndsayblowes account and leave you and those you support alone. He wants the same in return. Mute each other and move on.
This means though, that if the following accounts troll him, comment on his posts, make posts about him or discuss him in other comments, he will flag. If you, fulltimegeek or any of your accounts, counter the flags on such an occurrence then deal is off.
(@edicted @lyndsaybowes @fulltimegeek @smidge-tv @onnovocks @nickgrujic @kerrywolf @dlive24hour @mitrado @hendrix22)
The deal is simple, stop flagging, spamming and trolling each other. If someone in the group goes against the deal and instigates, they will be flagged. If this happens then your countering of that flag will end the truce.
If he goes against the deal, and instigates something towards you or your group, he breaks the truce and you all can let the flags fly.
@berniesanders and @fulltimegeek do you agree to the above here on the blockchain so this community can move on?
Edit for clarification
No where above does it say that ftg (or anyone else) can not defend a random flag that is seen as bullying or disagreeing with beliefs. It simply says that flags made to accounts for instigating things (details above) cannot be defended.
2nd edit
Since the response was flagged to invisible and spam is being upvoted which is making it hard to read this thread, I’ll add the response to this comment here.
Yup.
I think you meant "No"
Let’s just stop trying to make this about something other than the agreement at hand to end a feud that’s hurting many. The goal here is to move forward in a more positive manner.
Not really sure anyone would agree to no future flags ever, I wouldn’t .. so yeah.. let’s keep the focus here to resolve this.. unless you don’t actually want it resolved...
It’s been explained clearly, it’s very simple. Move along if you don’t care for it and continue doing whatever you wish.
The whole feud is about bernie flagging to oblivion every one he disagrees with.
If he has stated he won't ever stop doing that, nothing will change and this agreement is just a temporary bandaid which won't last.
He can flag what he disagrees with but why flagging people to oblivion?
Isn't a flag on a specific post or comment enough?
That is all I'm hoping for. That he stops with the automatic flagging with 300 bots of everything a person posts.
If this is too much to expect, this site is beyond salvation.
So looks to me of the two involved... @berniesanders responded like an adult and @fulltimegeek couldn't be bothered.
And then there is people not involved who are signalling they intend to continue to feud with the one willing to be an adult. Seems to me we have too many children pretending to be adults on the platform, we could use some more actual adults.
If you check my account you'll see I haven't used a flag in weeks.
I am just asking for what is fair: end the mass flagging of people around here.
I guess that means mack bot isnt downvoting me?
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Macbot isn’t a bernie account, you will have to take that up with the owner. I believe the steemcleaners discord may be able to point you in the right direction, I have no information on that but am aware that there is a way to dispute Macbot flags.
edit: I can see why you are on the list now. I’ll even help you out and give you a link, as I do have a small clue about what’s going on.
Here ya go!
https://discord.gg/nhnjGN
Lol.
Lol.
Lol.
Lol.
Then you obviously dont know whats going on.
Then you obviously dont know whats going on.
Then you obviously dont know whats going on.
Then you obviously dont know whats going on.
Then you obviously dont know whats going on.
I only spammed !popcorn in the SAME EXACT MANNER BERNIE DID.
I was blacklisted from using it and blacklisted from mack bot within 5 minutes.
Fuck their hypocrisy. BOTH OF THEM.
"Truce"
I only spammed !popcorn in the SAME EXACT MANNER BERNIE DID.
I was blacklisted from using it and blacklisted from mack bot within 5 minutes.
Fuck their hypocrisy. BOTH OF THEM.
"Truce"
I only spammed !popcorn in the SAME EXACT MANNER BERNIE DID.
I was blacklisted from using it and blacklisted from mack bot within 5 minutes.
Fuck their hypocrisy. BOTH OF THEM.
"Truce"
Eric, lay off the spam a bit would ya? You can get your point across without this mess and you know, then you wouldn’t be put on the mackbot for spamming.
I only spammed !popcorn in the SAME EXACT MANNER BERNIE DID.
I was blacklisted from using it and blacklisted from mack bot within 5 minutes.
Fuck their hypocrisy. BOTH OF THEM.
"Truce"
Lol.
I don't know about the others but I refuse that deal.
I don't want to see mr bernie stop flagging just a few users. I want to see him stop flagging everyone whose opinion is different fom him.
Any promise less than that is worthless to me.
That is not going to happen, ever.
If you agree to the initial comment (truce), can you state so in a reply please? Otherwise this is just some mouthy account (me) stating pointless things.
Make up your mind. You come here proposing a truce and now you say you won't ever stop flagging people because of their opinions.
So, all you want is for @fulltimegeek to stop flagging you so you can return to bullying everyone you feel like.
What kind of deal is that?
No. I'll flag bernz whenever I want, I'm not a paid shill. There is no guarantee that you are the designated negotiator and that means he can break the deal whenever he wants. I'll take mine in writing, signed and notarized or no deal.
Terms to be negotiated.
Greetings,
Onno.
You and @mitrado can flag whoever you want, and they can flag you in return.. the deal is off if ftg then defends your unprovoked continued trolling and flagging. It’s pretty simple.
Details are all there.. they are on chain.
I’m not speaking for Bernie or ftg, as both will have to comment here for this to be legitimate.
Do as you wish, the agreement above is just asking for a commitment by two individuals.
Following that deal bernie would have a green light to keep bullying and flagging everyone he doesn't agree with, except 10 users.
You need to try harder.
Exactly.
Actually that’s nowhere in the deal.. and I don’t actually have to try at all, for the record.
If you have an issue with him, message him and get it figured out. This isn’t about random flags, it’s about an ongoing feud where many are being harmed as collateral damage (as in your case).
Don’t come to me and tell me what I need to do, I’ve flagged inappropriate comments and had the balls to say enough is enough. Be a part of the solution or get out of the way.
Edit:
for the accounts who will show up to make this something else as they probably would get bored without this drama, no where above does it say that ftg (or anyone else) can not defend a flag that is seen as bullying or disagreeing with beliefs. **It simply says that flags made to accounts for instigating things (details above) cannot be defended.
pretty simple
It's the whole deal, at least that's how I interpret your words:
This is not about whoever you're including in the "each other" group.
This is about stopping opinion flags against every single user of the platform.
I edited above, defending flags is fine.. just not to accounts who are instigating it (as detailed above)
I know @mitrado and I put my hands on the fire that he never attacked or flagged without being provoked first.
This is an attempt to move forward.. “who started it” is sort of not important now. People can refuse to move past it, that’s their choice. No guarantee this will last longer than the last one, but it seems not attempting peace is not beneficial for anyone.
Unprovoked?!? Get real!
See, this is why you can't be the negotiator, you didn't do your homework or you are biased.
This is going forward, as I stated.. this isn’t a judge and jury to decide past events. “Unprovoked instigating going forward will be flagged and a counter to that flag will be a break of the truce”
I can include additional wording to show this is about future actions, not past if that’s helpful.
For now I'll stick to signed and notarized or I will have nothing to enforce the deal with. In essence you offer us nothing.
After all this shit you didn't think I was going by his word did you?
The contract is the blockchain, better than any piece of paper or notary. It cannot be altered, removed or argued against it’s there forever. It’s witnessed by a user base of thousands and anyone can access it.
As I stated.. the agreement above is asking for two individuals to agree here. What the rest of the platform does is up to each individual.
I was just clarifying as I didn’t want anything to be miscommunicated.
Thanks,
Justine
A deal with an anonymous entity is unenforceable and thus meaningless, regardless how it was recorded.
Greetings,
Onno.
Hot diggety dog! Can this be real (again)? I am going to need some coffee and a re-read to see if it's something to get my hopes up over.
I’m hoping this is the last “again” and wished this was done differently but lack of response and “approaching deadline” has left me with this option. Could you please inform fulltimegeek as he will not see my comment. Thank you, I would appreciate it.
I only spammed !popcorn in the SAME EXACT MANNER BERNIE DID.
I was blacklisted from using it and blacklisted from mack bot within 5 minutes.
Fuck their hypocrisy. BOTH OF THEM.
"Truce"