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RE: This is How @oracle-d Abuses its Steemit Delegation: Voting 37 Obviously Plagiarized @threespeak Videos by the Same Account in 2 Months + Video Plagiarism Case # 2-37 - Caso de Plagio Videográfico #2-37 @theultimatefood

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Don't you think the title is exaggerated? Not to defend oracle-d, but, if the curation is done by a bot or something similar, you can simply report the user on the respective 3speak server (or by contacting one of its administrators in private).

It is not the first time that something like this happens with a project here and it has not been necessary to make a post saying that they abuse the amount of SP they have.

I have no doubt that you are doing an excellent job, but you are making a project look bad that has built a good reputation over time, oracle-d has done incredible initiatives before and, I am sure they will continue to do an incredible job.

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Don't you think the title is exaggerated?

No, I dont think its an exaggeration, it might even happen to be an understatement, since the title assumes this is not intentional.

if the curation is done by a bot or something similar

It is irrelevant in this case how the curation is conducted, whats important here is that a project that supposedly onboards youtubers to steem has to verify them before starting to curate them, if that is not done it is clear and outright negligence, at least.

you can simply report the user on the respective 3speak server (or by contacting one of its administrators in private).

As said below we tried that before publishing this but didn't have access to that server or the admins at the time.

It is not the first time that something like this happens with a project here

Well, in so far as we are concerned, and we have a lot of experience in antiabuse, this is the first time a project with Steemit delegation votes this many plagiarized post by the same user in a span of 2 months, please illustrate me if you know of any other case.

and it has not been necessary to make a post saying that they abuse the amount of SP they have.

This is not about the amount of SP, and they don't actually have it, that's why its called a delegation, the issue is the stewardship of a large Steemit delegation such as this. Perhaps you dont think its necessary because your oracle-d writing assignment requires you not to... but yes, it is necessary to shine light on abuses of this magnitude and gravity.

but you are making a project look bad that has built a good reputation over time, oracle-d has done incredible initiatives before and, I am sure they will continue to do an incredible job.

We are not making Oracle-d look bad, the facts perhaps are, not to mention the response of the system admin shown in the post, which in all likelihood is the most honest of the ones we have received so far.

Thank you for your feedback.

This is How @oracle-d abuses its Steemit Delegation

That's an exaggeration (IMO).

whats important here is that a project that supposedly onboards youtubers to steem has to verify them before starting to curate them

I understand your point, but I still don't see the abuse of their Steem delegation. Curation projects, big users, projects like OD (YooDoo currently) can make mistakes upvoting plagiarized posts and, if nobody reports them, they probably won't notice because there are more important things to develop. Don't get me wrong, the things they upvote are important too, but that's why we are a community, to HELP, not to make a post accusing of abuse and to publish private conversations

please illustrate me if you know of any other case

First of all: No, this is not the first time and I know that you have worked with such projects, I don't want to think that you are lying to me, but just think about it and now tell me if OD is really "abusing" the amount of SP they have (whether it is theirs or not, if it is "abuse" it would still be the same thing)

I don't want to give names of other projects because that would directly get me into trouble, which I obviously don't want.

but yes, it is necessary to shine light on abuses of this magnitude and gravity.

No Jaguar, that's not necessary. You know why? Because you're not seeing Steem as a community. You're just here to identify what's "wrong" and automatically want to show that it's wrong.

Everyone here knows that oracle-d has done a good job all this time, now it seems too stupid to say that they are "abusing" the amount of SP they have by upvoting a user who only plagiarizes, I don't think anyone with any sense would do that stupid thing. Is a post really necessary? Is it really necessary to publish private conversations? You're saying you don't make OD look bad, but why publish private conversations? What's the point?

I guess we will have to agree to disagree, have a good day.

Same to you, bud. Have an amazing year start 🧡