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RE: Santa Fe High School Shooting: Real or False Flag narrative Gun-Control push? (discussion)
7. There have been 22 reports of school shooting this year so far: Yeah that is a red flag alright.
7. There have been 22 reports of school shooting this year so far: Yeah that is a red flag alright.
Yes a big red flag.
And a lot of those "school shootings" were things like a guy committing suicide in the school parking lot, someone discharging a gun in the bathroom or some guy shooting someone at a party. Still techniquely school shootings but a bit misleading
@freeman123 We (TBL is a team) can see your point and yes it can be misleading in the "school" aspect of it. It still shows that there is a problem with our youth, and in my opinion (I will not speak on my partners behave on this although I am sure he agrees) guns are not the problem. There is more than one "problem" with this, and nothing can change until people change.
I most definitely agree. The issue is systemic. Almost all shooters had been on or were recently on ssri anti depressants as I'm sure you know and on top of that lacked father figures. I always find that so many issues are deeply connected. butbyes guns are clearly not the issue. It is so much deeper then that. As we all know guns are tools. They can be used or misused.
Exactly. Let's say "they" win and all guns are gone...the problem is still going to be there only now there is a new weapon that is used. Until the actual issue is address this will forever be a problem.
Exactly. A fine example would be London outpacing NYC in murder rate due to people wielding knives. Both having strict gun control laws but London obviously being the more strict, didn't matter. The perps just use knives instead. And when they ban knives it'll be acid attacks (already is). Then it'll be bombs. Then it'll be steak knives or spoons or rocks or sticks. The list goes on. Anything can be used. Like you said ( I know we're preaching to the choir but it has to be said) it's a deeper issue that needs to be resolved. It's not fire arms. And taking them away will just make a bad situation even worse. You cannot violate a right of another make someone "safe". The topic should be liberty not safety and the ends do not justify the means.
Yes you are preaching to the choir but it had to be said. For the powers that be it is not about liberty nor is it about OUR safety... it is all about them and what they are working towards. Until people see that it will just be more of the same.
Right but the insidious part is the fact that they constantly preach about national security. "Give up your rights so we can be safe!" When really we haven't heard the topic of liberty being discussed in congress in ages. The topic should be liberty, then actual safety will follow. But yes, something tells me the powers that be do not eat the food we eat, take the aluminum thermisol fermaldehyde ridden vaccines we take, drink the soda we drink, drink the water we drink and so on. In fact we know they don't. But yes, you guys put out great material so keep it up, I'll be following your content. Oh, question, you are a two person team? You said your partner so I'm just curious. Always interested in learning a little about sources of info. I don't need specific details, I write under a pen name as well just curious about that aspect.
This is true... You really never hear anyone in government talk about liberty anymore... And Yes we know that they take care of themselves and do not put the trash that they give us to live on in their own bodies ^^.
Yes we are a two person team. We are a 'traditional couple' and have been together for 19 years and truthing for about the last 7. I go by ElectroCutie and he does not really go by a name at all he just uses TBL.
I believe either everyone has to have guns or no one should have guns. But since that'd only be possible in an ideal world. I at least want unstable people not to have guns. So many times I say this and people have to throw me in either camp. I believe the people that want guns as a form of self defense have a valid point. I also believe that those that are against guns also have a point.
Both groups agree on something. They don't want to go around and kill people. Now all I really care about are those people that can't make rational decisions (due to being mentally unstable) and would kill people even if it was never intended.
I believe in the right to bear arms 100%, however there is always an exception to the rule... In a perfect world there would be a test that could determine if giving a gun to someone would be a "bad" idea, but we do not live in a perfect world. The girl sitting at the coffee shop sipping on her coffee could very well put on a show that she is well put together but in all honesty giving her a gun she could become the worst serial killer the world has ever seen. What I am trying (and failing) to say is that it not simple.
At the moment America doesn't even have a semblance of a test for mental stability. At least don't give random strangers weapons.
I also have to question the efficiency of simple weapons. "The right to bear arms" was always referring to being able to fight against the state if something like the British occupation were to happen again. Fighting robbers/murderers doesn't fit into that.
There have also been some other points made that usually the best response even when you have a gun is to run and hide. I think small firearms are better for this, not the sensational massive rifles that get all the attention.
With guns and cars, you really can't allow someone stupid near them. Even one kid getting a hold of a gun is too much. Even one accidental shooting is too much. I'm not saying this would never happen. But at least reduce the chances as much as possible.
America needs to work on this. There should be a test that can be given, not to mention a waiting period, and I think classes that are mandatory before you can own a gun. You bring up so very good points and I agree with you. I do not think the average person should have anything more than a simple hand gun. Now if you are a hunter that is different but there should be rules to all of it... and if the rules are not followed the "punishment" should match. Where I live, yes I do feel the need to have a gun, however make no mistake, we take every precaution. The gun is the last line of defense... we have land so we have setup "traps", not to mention we have big guard dogs...
I'll give you that but how many shootings with more than one victim?