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RE: Delving into Fairness: Kryptogamers.com

in #gambling5 years ago

Thanks for taking the time to put together this well-organized explanation of the technicalities behind this operation. I will make that positive remark for now, but will also be interested to read the other comments. I hope that more players will comment and provide proper evidence, ideally in video form. Someone may figure out an obscure loophole they are taking advantage of. Keep in mind that I am NOT the only person to voice grievances about this operation. I am also continuing to follow up with several Steem blockchain administrators and external online gambling related agencies. My main gripe (aside from the fraud accusation) is that I got sucked into this game through a referral link by another Steemit member. It should be interesting to see where these Kryptogames people will be in six months. Perhaps I will be vindicated, and at such point I will have gotten out early. They are not paying dividends (it seems) unless you play daily. That's like only giving drug addicts a bonus fix if they inject drugs on a regular basis. I thought the whole concept of "staking" was that you get a continuous return on the assets you have staked? Am I the only one who finds that a bit "fishy". As I said, I know in my gut that something is not right here, and I a sticking with that. I am also NOT actively playing (while you ARE @fairbet) and so I am at least OUT of the "roller coaster" and so that perspective may be a good one right now going forward. As you said, ONE of these operation already "took the money and ran". I will NEVER be gambling on the blockchain ever again after this issue. The hope is that my earnings from SteemMonsters will offset the loss of ~ $750 USD worth of Steem, BTC and BCH. Again, you are doing good work with this page, and you have at least attempted to consult with others who are more technically knowlegable. It would have been ideal to know about your profile BEFORE I got involved with this, but "hindsight is 20/20". I WILL be continuing to do some legal research and monitoring on this Kryptogames operation, and if there is ANY proper evidence (both within the Steemit platform OR the larger internet) I WILL pursue whatever legal action possible. If the general consensus here CHANGES so that an increasing number of people start complaining and providing evidence I will already be ahead of the curve and ready to take action. In the meantime, I will follow your posts to stay up-to-date on the pulse of the community relative to this operation. And no, @kryptogames, I have ZERO desire to discuss this issue further with you. There is enough common sense evidence (aside from the algorithm) to convince me that I want NOTHING to do with you people, other than suing (or settling with) you for that 5,000 Steem at some point in the future, if/when an adequate amount of evidence is provided by the community. That is all I have to say on the matter at this time. In conclusion, good effort @fairbet. Hopefully you will stay "in the black" if you continue to play the Kyrptogames.

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So everyone commenting has won excellent. All 5 of them, where are all the players that have lost be interesting to see what there thoughts are.
I used to say online poker wad rigged and you had 'independent' people that said no for years til millions were scammed. My gut feelings have got me through life aint no blockchain bullshit gonna convince me to ignore that.
Some random code which none of us understand.
Still doesn't explain why
You can't take cards when dealer has ace(sometimes)
You can't split aces twice
You can't double down aces once split
How many decks of cards they play with
If these are not important then the game is a version of blackjack. Not blackjack so dont advertise it as blackjack

You can't split aces twice

This is ok

The problem is that you can't resplit any other pair. This is not a blackjack game.

Sorry for replying to this old, unrelated post, but you didn't have any posts to comment on. Is there a reason you downvoted my post? I don't use any bidbots ever, I think I was manually curated by some accounts that used to be bidbots, but it has nothing to do with me paying for them. Just seems odd to downvote someone not involved with bidbots. Thanks for your time.

If you read this post @qam2112, you can see they programmed the game with 4 decks of cards, it's very clear. They also explained the rules to their blackjack game and don't want to make it more in favour of the player by allowing resplits and doubles after splits, casinos allow that but they also can kick you out if you're a really good player. The odds are already great if you use a simple blackjack strategy card.

How about this? I will play 10 hands at different times of the day. At a fixed bet of 1 steem. 20 times. Lets see how many wins we get in those 20 times? So that 10 x 20 hands different times in blocks of 10. I will Screenshot them then you get back to me and tell me how it's provably fair.

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P.S. Also, I "staked" the GAMERS tokens in Steem-Engine, and then when I saw there was no daily dividend payout I proceeded to "unstake" them, and now they seem to have been sucked into some sort of an "unstaked pergatory":

GAMER Krypto Gamers Token 0 $0.00 -33.33% 0 (2746630)

Any idea how to get these token back into the "active" column (the $0.00 above)? Or have I even lost those now also?

Thank you for the detailed reply.