Thanks for the additional tips on propagating the berries. We have a kazillion wild black berries but only 6 or 7 wild raspberries. Last Fall I snipped ends of 6 of the raspberry canes and dipped in hormone and planted in a little 6 pack container. Last month they showed signs of growth so I have already transplanted. I am noticing suckers on 3 raspberry plants I purchased last year so Now I know to move those suckers somewhere else. I get excited about the berries too. Last year we had only been in the house a couple of months when berries started coming in and I was not prepared. That is one reason I started the wine as there were so many. We traded some and gave away quite a few too. Hopefully we will both be in berry heaven this year.