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RE: You Can't Be A Vegetarian
Lol okay. I'm sorry but I can't have a sensible conversation with someone who doesn't believe in global warming, and also thinks that plants feel pain. Mate - plants don't have a brain or a central nervous system in order to process pain or have a consciousness. Even if they have distress hormones or whatever, they have nothing to process them with. Sorry, but you can't fall back on that one.
Because you can explain how I feel pain in Dreams, or how people still experience everything in NDE, and out of body experiences, showing that you can be BRAIN DEAD and still experience, and not halucinate, actually objective observations of reality confirmed by others. Furhtermore because you believe that pain exists only in humans, regardless of "whatever", since you have not researched this, you are ignorant to speak about something that amounts to "whatever", they have distress hormones for no reason, because they cannot process them with, it's not for communication and information, it's just because. Also you'd have to explain how you came to the conclusion that consciousness requires a nervous system, even though people experience consciousness in NDE.
There's evidence that global warming exist? You must have been living under a rock for the last 4 years, global warming has been reclassified as CLIMATE CHANGE, since the temperatures across the globe has started dropping, the the models used to predict the scare of "climate change" before were admitted to as fraud and done solely to create such fear, but you want me to believe in the false narrative that a degree of change over a century in average temperatures will cause extinction when daytime to nighttime changes in temperature exceed that by orders of magnitude making it inconsequential, while painting nature as weak and pathetic unable to adapt while the species we have today have survived ice ages and have evolved through numerous such cataclysmic events, you want me to believe that man is responsible for this last "change" when there is no proof of one underlying constant, that hasn't changed or experienced change in nature, even dinosaurs cannot be explained in the terms of today's gravity, their muscles would need to be hundreds of times more powerful than today's creatures simply to stand up, let alone run, or fight, an inevitable response in nature.That just point that nothing is constant and the folly of "maintaining" against such change might not be evident yet but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Better fall back on the non-discussion fallacy instead of presenting proof of Global Warming, and assure yourself that consciousness is a phenomenon that happens when enough physical complexity is achieved, because that doesn't sound like a bunch of 'religious" dogma when it falls flat on assumptions without methodology or reason to approach the question of consciousness, and is invalidated by recognizing that people have experienced out of body and mystical experiences for ever, and is the reason why every religion and every philosophical reach is done "what are dreams, what are out of body experiences, what is consciousness what is awareness" while you sit on a throne of "duh, these people are still asking these questions?" As everyone can recognize, speaking on plant consciousness without first thoroughly examining that, is the definition of ignorance, and basically calling me a denialist, or anti global warming on the sly, only amounts to a non-discussion fallacy while pigeonholing me on the imply.
Capiche?