RE: De-Spinning the Spin - The real truth
Oh ok. I'm sorry, I've been confused by the Tron Steem Drama. I'm trying to understand the details. For example, I'm guessing that crypto exchange websites have Steemit accounts. I'm not totally sure how it all works, but I am guessing that these Steemit accounts work as the middle man between their exchanges and the Steem blockchain. I have sent some Steem to Poloniex and Bittrex through their Steem accounts.
So, based on what I know, based on what I've experienced, it seems that these accounts have access to Steem on their exchanges and access to the Steem blockchain. So, I believe that they took some Steem from some exchanges that they had access to and powered up their SP on their Steem accounts to then vote for witnesses.
I believe Tron Overlord Justin Sun was upset as he really wanted to help those exchanges power down as fast as possible so that they could return Steem back to the random people they borrowed or stole from. I believe that some of those people did not know that the exchanges were doing this and that Roy Liu and Justin and Tron really wanted to rush things along to make sure that nobody notices. But then if they power down, then they can't continue to vote with the same voting power. And I am guessing that people can try to vote back in the previous witnesses back into the top twenty or top thirty spot as they did to an extent last week.
I feel like Tron is in a sticky situation. I don't know what I would do in their situation. Do you keep the SP so you can continue voting or do you return the Steem to the people and admit to the actions that they took. Well, either way, they did what they did.
Negotiate with the "real" witnesses. Buy the steem-power you want and buy liquid steem to replace the stolen steem (on the exchanges).
Yeah, but Tron is still guilty and they cannot erase the evidence of their crimes.
I'm not sure their ethical violations qualify as actual "crimes".
Are you aware of a specific criminal statute they've violated?
Depends on your definition of crime. Tron got exchanges to steal or borrow Steem to smuggle into private and personal Steem accounts that those exchanges own on Steemit to then vote or upvote witnesses and then as heard from Roy Liu and Tron Overlord Justin Sun, they were trying to rush the funds, the Steem, to power down and return the dough back to the clients on those exchanges as quickly as possible before anybody could notice it seems.
I understand that. I'm just not sure that action violates any specific criminal statutes.
There are different kinds of laws, codes, statutes, rules, blue laws, etc. There are local laws, city laws, state laws, federal or national laws, international laws, etc, and more importantly natural law. I like natural law which other laws may stem from. The legal system in America is said to perhaps stem from something something British or who knows what from Europe or specifically England meaning that America could still be under the crown according to some people who study these things and to some extent that may be true.
So, still nothing specific.
Theft. There's no such thing as 'borrowing without prior approval'. While the exchanges are now powering down, and this may indicate they intend to return the money to it's owners, a fit of remorse by burglars that causes them to return their booty doesn't change the fact they stole it.
The funds the exchanges powered up didn't belong to them. Voting on governance with those funds is an exclusive right of ownership of those funds. To do so, the exchanges had to steal them. The funds remain in their possession presently, and not in the possession of their rightful owners.
Banks do the same thing, and corrupt lawmakers call it lawful. When theft is the law, government is a crime. Natural law is actual, a result of physics and ecology. If society institutes codes that don't reflect natural laws, but instead completely oppose them, society becomes incapable of being maintained in the real world.
Theft is theft and a crime, no matter what scribbles on paper say. Laws that justify theft are crimes themselves. The exchanges stole the money, and committed crimes under just laws.