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RE: De-Spinning the Spin - The real truth

in Threespeak5 years ago

Depends on your definition of crime. Tron got exchanges to steal or borrow Steem to smuggle into private and personal Steem accounts that those exchanges own on Steemit to then vote or upvote witnesses and then as heard from Roy Liu and Tron Overlord Justin Sun, they were trying to rush the funds, the Steem, to power down and return the dough back to the clients on those exchanges as quickly as possible before anybody could notice it seems.

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I understand that. I'm just not sure that action violates any specific criminal statutes.

There are different kinds of laws, codes, statutes, rules, blue laws, etc. There are local laws, city laws, state laws, federal or national laws, international laws, etc, and more importantly natural law. I like natural law which other laws may stem from. The legal system in America is said to perhaps stem from something something British or who knows what from Europe or specifically England meaning that America could still be under the crown according to some people who study these things and to some extent that may be true.

So, still nothing specific.

Theft. There's no such thing as 'borrowing without prior approval'. While the exchanges are now powering down, and this may indicate they intend to return the money to it's owners, a fit of remorse by burglars that causes them to return their booty doesn't change the fact they stole it.

The funds the exchanges powered up didn't belong to them. Voting on governance with those funds is an exclusive right of ownership of those funds. To do so, the exchanges had to steal them. The funds remain in their possession presently, and not in the possession of their rightful owners.

Banks do the same thing, and corrupt lawmakers call it lawful. When theft is the law, government is a crime. Natural law is actual, a result of physics and ecology. If society institutes codes that don't reflect natural laws, but instead completely oppose them, society becomes incapable of being maintained in the real world.

Theft is theft and a crime, no matter what scribbles on paper say. Laws that justify theft are crimes themselves. The exchanges stole the money, and committed crimes under just laws.

When you transfer funds to an exchange, those funds are de facto owned by the exchange.

You "trust" them to return those funds upon request, but the rules governing the fulfillment of any such request are subject to the whim of the exchange (most banks reserve the right to hold your funds for 30 days).

That's why we need trustless decentralized exchanges.

When theft is lawful, government is a crime.

This is why I don't use banks, who have stolen $100's of thousands from me permanently, and why I won't use exchanges. Since I learned my lesson before exchanges arose, I have lost nothing to exchanges.

My keys, my crypto.

You are repeating what they say but there may be more to it than just that.

It's akin to what banks do when they do God knows what with their client's money.