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RE: Coronavirus: The Ugly Face of Capitalism

in Deep Dives5 years ago

And why are literally all countries in the world taking drastic countermeasures? Regardless of their level of capitalism?

Because of incompetent bureaucracy. They have to do something, and then they are using crisis to eliminate all the leftovers of privacy, and (like in France and Montenegro) to prevent rising protests against the government. There is no strict quarantine for the Russian citizens, nor the state of emergency. Quarantine is only for those who are coming into the country.

Btw. Homeless people are not the ones dying in the hospitals or the ones needing emergency treatment.
Homeless are the poor guys that might not even make it there to get a chance in these times

Nobody said that homeless are dying in hospitals. We only have the data on the age of deceased, not the place where they died, and we are getting cries that there are not enough beds in Italian hospitals, which means they probably may report symptoms, but are left on their own… The homeless population is the most vulnerable to the seasonal infections and they are by far majority in those death numbers. It is simple logic. And the result of destroyed public health system.

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We only have the data on the age of deceased, not the place where they died

Negative, the numbers in Italy show in the vast majority the deceased in hospital. Several that died at home are not counted either (due to what majors told the press). Homeless will be missing in the stats even more.

Lets see how it develops in Russia. From the numbers they are at the beginning, likely 2,3 weeks behind Italy. I do really hope no heavy countermeasures are necessary. But I would not bet on it.

And the result of destroyed public health system.

The PHS has never been better in (northern) Italy. Still many challenges to be adressed besides Corona, but with the increasingly old society it is no easy task.
Lets see how countries like Germany handle the crisis. If their hospitals are crumbling as well.. it shows that modern medicine may hit its limits sooner than we would like to accept.

P.S. And of course it should be no free way ticket to elimitate privacy/human rights. But I am very confident that the Democracies will prove to be resistant at least to this level of pressure.

 5 years ago (edited)

Negative, the numbers in Italy show in the vast majority the deceased in hospital. Several that died at home are not counted either (due to what majors told the press). Homeless will be missing in the stats even more.

You can see again the data from the European Mortality Monitoring until week 11, 2020

There is no excess mortality anywhere. You can think whatever you want, but these are official data. This is all corporate media scam.