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RE: How to CLAIM REWARDS and Power Up your steem account.

in CEO Champion's Gate4 years ago

I wonder if this whole steemit thing would be an effective thing to bring up in an argument when I'm trying to convince people of the evils of capitalism.

"So you say capitalism causes innovation and the creation of valuable products, but what about steemit, which provides negative value by taking up your time on crypto-nonsense instead of just being a normal forum"

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+1 for auto-claim void powers.

The claim rewards button is not something for you to use a lot of time on, so if someone has been here for 20+ days and still has unclaimed rewards it is safe to assume they simply do not know how the system works. Likewise the market takes very little time to interact with, and there is room for strategy and gamification of every system at play, so from the perspective of wasting time on this: no it is not an effective argument at all.

If negativity is your target then you would be better to focus on the fact that this place was never even meant to be used as a gaming forum and is (currently) missing certain features as a result, rather than to focus on our ability to summon cryptocurrency from thin air and reward everyone simply for participating in the community.

However, in the long term the community should become more self-sufficient in terms of voting power, rather than being so heavily reliant on entities such as myself. For this to happen, at least a few people need to have gained some basic understanding of the system, but if there are people that have not understood the function of claim rewards it implies the floor is low and probably not many have reached the level of understanding basic functionality. This is an obvious problem, so I created this guide - to allow some exposure to the basic systems as foundation for a much stronger future understanding that will inevitably strengthen the community's overall grasp of more advanced topics. Not everyone needs to be advanced, but some basic understanding would be good to have around.

If someone does not know how to claim rewards or use the wallet, they also cannot do many other things so they are likely just missing some information, but if someone abstains from claiming rewards simply for not wanting them, then they're missing the point entirely.

Not claiming / Not voting
Beyond the point of misunderstandings these become fundamentally selfish behaviors.
Claiming reward isn't just about your own account it affects the people you upvote as well.
It is fine to be selfish, but I prefer to rule out misunderstandings.

 4 years ago (edited)

Little scenario:
Random player X happens to hear about / find CEO. He has to - try it, like it, continue playing it, farm inside game, have enough interest / time to even look for forums, create account here, get enough satisfaction / value out of using forum. These are still "layers" placed on top of each other, if / when he loses interest or doesn't find all the involved requirements worth the fun in either of them, all layers above fall.
And now, he has to care / bother / invest more time to understand that the thing he joined as game forum is something more, and try to understand it all, earn, and make the best effort to make others earn, or else we call him selfish. It's quite a way from "hey, little chess-like game for you to have fun at times".

I do understand there is value, and your intentions being helpfull, but assuming / requiring people to invest time and even care about all of the things that you know and find valuable could also be viewed as a bit of ... hm, let's not jump to conclusions from either side :) .

On the other hand, I did use "redeem rewards" for 1st time now, but past that, it only makes me wonder if doing my best to earn is done on forum of a game, on which I waste so much time :) .

I see your point, but it appears that the word selfish has derailed you.
RP trading is selfish - as are many other things, but this is not the problem.

The real problem is that certain people may aspire to having greater power here without having been given any information on how that works or any fundamentals to build from. Nobody is required to do this, but considering it is so easy and comes alongside many benefits, noticing that many of you have not claimed rewards leads to the reasonable conclusion that most people simply do not have adequate information pertaining to these systems. There are people within the community that may want to see it grow, but do not have the knowledge required to make that happen.

What someone does with this information is their own choice, just as it is with anything else, but if they are not given that information to begin with the blame falls to me because I happen to know more about this place than nearly anyone - so it would be quite silly for this community to be filled with people that don't even know the basics.

example:
personX was having a bandwidth limitation problem preventing certain actions, which is caused by not having enough steem power to match their high activity - personX also has never once claimed rewards, even though it would solve said RC problem. This is an obvious lack of information or complete misunderstanding of the underlying system, and no amount of debating, nitpicking, semantics, hypotheticals, or belittlement could ever convince me otherwise. This guide is for the people that need it.


side note:
Ryan and v-56 both have accounts created by Grand with autoclaiming, which means the first person to respond here with a normal account also had never claimed rewards.