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RE: My thoughts about our first week of the WOX Steemit Engagement challenge

in WORLD OF XPILAR2 years ago (edited)

Lovely post, and lovely flowers.
Are there quality comments? For example, if something is nice and you say it is nice, does it count less than a long comment? I mean with the way Steemit works.

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 2 years ago 

Of course, there are. "Nice, beautiful, I like it, good, or well done" are just subjective compliments that don't say anything. I think we can accept it from normal people who are participating but I find it unacceptable if these comments come from professional people or from those who are part of a jury team.

 2 years ago 

I understand, but I am not sure about it.
Sometimes people do something for fun, or for the challenge, and not to start a career or learn the subject.
Then, giving a nice comment, if what they do is nice, is really nice :)
As a judge, again, it depends. In some places, judges just judge, while in other, they give opinion too.
With my students, I am super strict. I am demanding. But with people in a community, I am just one of the community, even though I am a judge.
If there is something beneficial I can say, I will say it.

 2 years ago 

I think it should not be forgotten that we are part of a team with a status, the status of teacher and judge. If you comment as a teacher and even more so as a member of the jury, that comment must always be consistent with that position. Starting with the assumption that that is what the participants expect to get from an expert.
If the participant wants to start a carrier or not, is not our concern and we don't know it.
Still, a thoughtful comment can always be fun if you want it.
Another thing is when you comment on other conditions.

 2 years ago 

Again, I think it depends.
Some art is just made for the challenge, I do not want to get too technical about brightness values, edges, composition, and so on for just a simple thing, when the structure is not correct, and nothing is right about it.
If someone makes an effort, that is good enough for me. If it is more advanced, then yes.

 2 years ago 

It is clear that we are not going to reach an agreement. We have different approaches to what teaching is, and also different degrees of commitment. Maybe I didn't explain my position well. I'm not talking about giving a complicated technical explanation, I'm talking about the respect that every participant deserves of an evaluation with a minimal explanation of the reasons for it by a professional who judges their participation (as was also announced). We do not know about the motivation of people to participate in the challenge, we do not know their age, their intellectual level, their education or their level of knowledge, but we know and decide how to participate as professionals. In addition, giving a simple but coherent explanation of our assessment, whether positive or negative, also speaks of the respect and appreciation we have for our own work.

 2 years ago 

Of course. That is the beauty of humanity. Different opinions and way of action.
Clearly, you are a valuable addition to the community. I am with you.
We just roll differently.
I have 35K to 50K visitors per month in my international website, and 5.5-7.5K per month in my Hebrew website.
You can imagine the amount of emails I get. I reply them ALL (except spam).
https://ranartblog.com/
I have 61K followers on Pinterest.
If you scroll the comments I get, it will take forever and ever, and then some. I replied ALL!
https://www.pinterest.com/ranartblog/
In my Instagram, I help anybody who wants. They call me sir and master, and thank me for my help.
I tell them I am not sir, I am Ran, and I love what I am doing, so it is ok.
https://www.instagram.com/ran_art_blog/
You can see the work of my students. They love me. I am demanding, but I give them all I got.
https://ranartblog.com/about.html
And, as you can see, when there is something to reply, I do it thoroughly.
As I was saying, we operate in different ways, and it is great.
As you said, we are like complementary colors. Maybe you did not say it exactly like that :)

 2 years ago 

Hi Ran,
Thank you very much for this extensive list with many K's to impress me, many of these can be bought (I'm not saying it's your case). 😂
Yes, we just roll differently. I have never been interested in building a network of thousands of followers, I prefer to dedicate myself modestly to my painting and share what I have learned when I have the opportunity.
Congratulations on the love you receive from your students!

 2 years ago 

Love from my students is the best.
My followers cannot be bought. It takes a lot of years and effort.
Bought things online are useless, and I do not like useless things.
We will learn to work together.

I think quality content not necesarily need to be lengthy, you know that some people chat for hours but totally rubbish.

I believe the whole idea is if the comment is appropriate and reflect the subject of the post and also if the user not repeating the same for other posts.

I am for engagement that helps us to communicate and rturn to user because we found the user behing the post interesting. That was what I also found in you while reading your posts and communicating with you Ran.

 2 years ago 

Thank you :)
Yes, I agree. That said, sometimes, less is more. It really depends.
For me, I always like to learn, or to teach, but also some fun is great too.

I suppose it depends on context. Sometimes a comment that simply says that something is great and gives a job well done may not be a very thoughtful comment but the post may not have given anything to post thoughtfully on. Telling the author there work was nice can still make them happy, even if it does not add to any discussions. I feel I do both, as sometimes, such as the one I am making right now, there is contextual relevance and can add to a conversation, whereas other times, I simply want to congratulate someone making something pretty for us all to enjoy.

 2 years ago 

Indeed.
Sometimes I see something nice, but I do not have much to say.
So, saying it is nice is both makes the author happy, and make me feel good that I had something to say to someone I want to support.

Precisely! (See what I did there?) lol

 2 years ago 

I see. But when we talk, we already "know" each other, and we are fellow artists.
It is different...

In my opinion, if a user is fond of using those phrase even when the publication contains beautiful flowers as you mentioned, i may easily lose interest in such comment..

Maybe there are other things he/she woulf have added to the comment.....not necessarily a lenghthy one- don't misunderstand me, but something well commended for.