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RE: For Those Who Do Not Receive Support From Steemcurator

in WORLD OF XPILAR3 years ago

I think the question was around how much of Steemit you'd looked at because I'd only recently increased looking outside of the World Of Xpilar community and was generally disappointed by most of what I saw.

There are some communities that are just a scam, created to be a scam with the sole purpose of scamming. In some cases, they're created so that the scammer in question can keep track of all of the accounts they've created so that on the face of it they're supporting multiple users but are in fact just supporting themselves. I can't imagine that the system will change to curb such behaviour but you can always hope.

I've sometimes thought that Steem is a cryptocurrency like many others in that it needs to be mined. In this case, it's mined through a blogging interface where there are many methods to how it's done.

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 3 years ago 

Before I got stuck in the WORLD OF XPILAR community I wandered through different communities. But then I didn't understand where fraud was and where blogging was. Then I wrote and read for a long time exclusively within the WORLD OF XPILAR. Only now, having become a curator, I wander around different communities every day.

The most horrible was my first day of wandering. Then I panicked that I would not find quality posts and would support 2-3 communities, so I will be accused of bias. There is so much garbage on this platform. In addition to fraud, there are millions of posts that are worthless.

I've sometimes thought that Steem is a cryptocurrency like many others in that it needs to be mined.

That's right. I came across a cryptocurrency that can be earned by listening to the radio. There is also a game where you have virtual miners and earn cryptocurrency. But everywhere the principle is the same, there is a pool of rewards, and it is divided among all participants in proportion to their power.

Scammers take away part of the pool, and then bloggers earn less. Bloggers are leaving the platform and the share of scammers is growing. This is reflected in the quality of posts, garbage begins to predominate. This in turn discourages readers and new authors. This is the beginning of the end of the platform.

The problem is that the Steemit team wants to make the platform decentralized again. Therefore, the community itself needs to fight fraud. But the community does not yet have such resources.

 3 years ago 

I do wonder if we've already reached (and passed) the tipping point where the number of scammers outweighs the number of genuine users - there are certainly more accounts intent on scamming in some way than there appear to be writing genuine content. The power that ac-cheetah has is a huge step in improving things.

I've also been thinking about the difficult task that you've faced - especially with people using the club5050 or club100 tags when they're withdrawing all of their power.

I'm thinking that another bit of automation is on the cards where I filter the posts by steemexclusive and club100 tags and sort them by the length of the post - and then look at the account's transfers and if they have any going out, they're removed from the list. Similarly if they have the krsuccess hashtag or are upvoted by UpVu, Tipu or one of the other well known voting bots. This would leave you with posts that have presumably taken a lot of effort to write and have potentially been overlooked - especially if I also remove posts that have received booming or steemcurator votes already. Perhaps also only highlighting posts that have received fewer than (let's say) 10 upvotes. I'll have a bit more of a think and see what API steemchiller provides but I could potentially automate a daily list for specific tags... 🤔

 3 years ago 

I admire the capabilities of programmers. You are here like a fish in water. You can work miracles. Such automation would definitely make life easier for everyone.

Regarding the number of fraudsters. In my opinion, they outnumber bloggers in number and power. I see no reason why this should change. The biggest problem is the bid bots that fund them.

Today I suffered a bit from automation. About two weeks ago I joined the Downvote Trail, it turned out that when my Downvote power reaches 0 then my voting power is used. Today I saw that 15% of my voting power was gone.

 3 years ago 

I'm getting there 🙂 I need to work out all of the bidbots and exchanges and the users who upvote if you've delegated to them - like justyy. Having looked into this before, do you have a list saved anywhere of the voters I should be adding to the "ignore" list?

Yes, I learnt that lesson with endingplagiarism. I think you should be able to set a limit for their bot to stop - mine's something like 15% or 20%.

 3 years ago 

I have a list, but I'm sure it's not exhaustive:

upvu
tipu
upmewhale
shy-fox
justyy
sct.krwp
coin-doubler
robiniaswap
nutbox.mine
boomerang
bot-api
successgr.with
gotogether
templar-kr
heroism
support-kr
steemvote
bidvote
xiguang

 3 years ago 

That's great, thank you. Just me double checking, anybody who receives an upvote from any of these accounts has delegated or bought a vote?

 3 years ago 

Here is a list of all bid bots. Some with the possibility of delegation, others with the possibility of purchase, or both at the same time. I did not split the lists because the Steemit team rules state that you cannot delegate or buy.

 3 years ago (edited)

How does this sound to you...

  1. I get a list off all of the posts that use the steemexclusive tag and are between 1 and 2 days old (to allow enough time for auto-voting).
  2. I remove users who are on my blacklist (e.g. for plagiarism).
  3. I remove users who have transferred funds to any user on my "exchange/bot" blacklist.
  4. I remove users who are on my "voting" blacklist.
  5. I order posts by length and output them.

Some accounts transfer steem to other users for contest prizes so they won't necessarily be 100% power up and the club100 tag isn't widely used.

I can add filters for specific tags and remove more (I don't want to add a query for delegations because it's already quite slow to run (it's looping through approximately 600 posts for a day)).

So I could create a report for a "lifestyle" set of tags for example 😉

It's not perfect and some manual checking will be required still but it'll shortcut a lot of the effort involved in searching through every community 🙂

 3 years ago 

Cool. thanks. I've got 2 lists - one removes people who have been voted by specific users, the other is a list of all exchanges and vote buying. There's some overlap but that's ok. I'll need to keep adjusting it but I'll have it up and running today 🙂

 3 years ago 

Oh, and I also remove posts that have already been upvoted by steemcurator01 or steemcurator02. I could add others like booming but some good posts get upvoted by both. I should probably also remove posts that have been supported by steemcurator 03-08 too.

 3 years ago 

I've almost finished the code 🙂 What's the time period for club100 to be true? Is it no withdrawals within the past 3 months?

 3 years ago 

I've almost finished the code

😮 Yes, three months.