Perfectly determined and to the point. However, requirements such as at least 5 valid comments on a post or at least 10 votes will not improve your score. Put yourself in the shoes of the people who are really dependent on the income they can earn here! I have to have so and so many comments? Then I'll create lots of accounts with which I can interact with each other for the sake of appearances. I need so and so many votes? The same reaction: if someone is just looking for the easiest way to use a system profitably.
If someone is an admin or moderator of a community, they should communicate with the authors. Not via tables and lists, via forms and checkboxes. They should establish a connection that tells them exactly whether they are dealing with a real person or a fake. And this feeling, this sure sensation, should be the only yardstick by which the judgement is made: am I reading an interesting post? Is the author accessible and responsive to my questions? Is he stringent in his self-presentation?
The purpose of 'engagement challenge ' was to actually engage with users from all over the world, meet people with similar mindsets, learn from each other and share valuable content amongst each other. By and large what I have observed (even on my posts) people tend to use similar sort of comments which seem to br generated through AI. A long time ago, when Engagement Challenges were new on this platform, I came across a WhatsApp group in which users from same country used to share the links to their posts and members of that group used to comment on each others posts so that each one would have more comments on their articles.
I thought to myself, what purpose does it fulfill? We might have more comments on our posts but was it really engagement? The same group of people on each other's post everytime, only because they wanted to have more comments on their posts?
The initiative of voting on meaningful and good comments through sc03-08 was another step which I appreciate a lot. This was done to make sure that users are genuinely reading the posts and making s relevant comment using their brains. But, like everything, abusers find a way to tackle these measures. Remember when I 'presented my opinion ' regarding Engagement Challenges, I foreshadowed this happening but it wasn't taken well by a lot of users ;-))
Only this time, the difference is I'm ready to catch these fake commenters on engagement challenge posts. If we don't stop this abuse now, engagement challenge would be nothing but a hub of abuse.
No one in time need will invest time in meeting people around the world.
The first thing I skip if in time need is translating text and I will return to the same group of people I know I like to read.
How about giving up on these engagement challenges?
I said something similar in 2022, if you can drop down your discord, @wakeupkitty.pal, I'll forward you the link to that post. It wasn't really taken well by a lot of users (some of them are not on this platform any more)
During these past years, I have come to an important realization that only pointing out a mistake or something that you think is going wrong won't make a difference until and unless you come up with a viable solution. I am not in the favour of Engagement Challenge as it doesn't ignite that spark anymore and to replace the engagement challenges, I came up with two initiatives ( the first one, I discussed it with a Crypto Academy professor as well, and he kinda agreed with me)
What I suggested was to reestablish the Steemit Crypto Academy to it's former glory. I remember back in 2021, when I was basically new to the 'Crypto World ' and a novice trader, it was Crypto Academy that groomed me to become a good technical analyst and taught me risk management. It was due to this academy, I got so good at trading that I started scalping and opening swing trades.
Why do I talk about the Crypto Academy now? Because post halving of Bitcoin, it's only a matter of weeks and months, BTC will cross the $100,00k mark. 2024-2026 will be a perfect opportunity for all traders to utilize the bull-run. In my humble opinion we need to bring back the Steemit Crypto Academy where professors used to teach about market patterns, indicators, technical analysis and Fundamental analysis. There will be a lot of projects in this bull run which will have huge gains. The engagement challenges have been running for two years and I think it's time for a change to fully utilize the bull run.
Of course the academy had its own cons. The Professors exploiting their positions, students copying from different websites but I think we have the solution to this as wel. We have enough respected users on this platform who have been into crypto for a very long time now, they can serve as professors. For AI content, catching an AI comment is far more difficult than pointing out a whole article.
Secondly, not everyone is interested in crypto and we have to consider them as well so for that I suggest that we introduce profession-related series. We have enough amount of users from all different sectors of professions. Each one can teach something regarding their profession, give classes, add valuable content and can ask questions in their articles, questions that can only be answered by reading the whole post. I believe it is possible. Sure, it might take some time to adjust but it is very doable. It's just my two cents on this topic.vI'm open to anything that other users might suggest.
Thank you.
cc: @steemcurator01 @kouba01 @weisser-rabe @alejos7ven @waqarahmadshah @patjewell @pelon53
People are free to take part in the Engagement Challenges or not.
We will be very happy to see new initiatives from the whole Steem community to encourage new types of posts and new types of interaction and engagement.
Sure they are, people always tend to follow what the Steemit team introduces. But as you mentioned, the team awaits to see new initiatives and will support these initiatives as well. This comment will serve as an excellent opportunity for community leaders to introduce something interesting in their communities. We have alottt of potential on this platform...
The whole point of engagement is interaction between Steemians and this can only be achieved by reading, commenting and upvoting each other. This all is part of making and keeping this platform great.
If you ask me the present engagement contests do not need to change much to start with the 'sharing profession or skills' contests. It might be a refreshing change instead of the endless Q&A where creativity isn't required.
To avoid AI comments the focus shouldn't be on how many comments one leaves or how many one receives (this says nothing about the author but more about those who comment and upvote) but the focus should be on the text and the right, logical hashtags should be used to find valuable information back.
It's long ago I heard about the 'crypto academy' it would be nice to have that back. Good info, babysteps would be helpful too.
I no longer use Discord it's a long time ago I did. You can leave the link underneath one of my posts, sent it to my gmail, x ir if you like Telegram @Wakeupkitty
Thank you for your answer and offer.
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I'm always open for new ideas.
As for the engagement challenges, I do think, despite the negativity over the last two weeks, they are serving their purpose.
I think it would be better if you get your answer from those associated with the academy rather than from me...
Mark my words: by the end of the day, you'll find yourself dealing with a major headache when you realize the severity of this situation and see how many reputed members are involved in this abuse. And I'm not just referring to their comments—you'll also encounter some surprises in their posts...
Exactly my point. I have done something on this and I know a few of them have as many as 10-12 accounts. There is much more that is needed for a proper selection of a winner. Selection based on the number of comments is asking for innovative ideas of getting a 01 vote. I have seen senior as well as decent writers going for unfair methods by writing as many comments as they can.
On the other hand, serious writers who cannot write as many comments are keeping a distance from SEC.
How is it possible for someone to have 12 account?
With my own account I can keep up with the stress of posting daily then a human being would open 12 different accounts!
I think that's you overstretching it
You are too new to understand my point and I don't want to write it in public. But if your computer is used by all your family members and friends for writing comments to count and stay in the race of big votes, that comes under that category. I otherwise know where 2-3 persons are creating multiple accounts.
Maybe you are right
I'm too new
That's a good point. 👍
I doubt a moderator or admin can communicate if there are 100+ entries let alone reading comments and investigate but it would be better if.