Great to have you back on the block @harvardhomestead!! Gosh it would be fun to dive into a workshop with you. Gosh these are gorgeous and incomparable to commercial offerings. Moccasins are the best!! Nevermind making them by hand in a good way. Though i am leary of travel over winter with unpredictable weather i am holed up for the next few months. But, it would be a great adventure to wander northbound come spring/ summer looking ahead. !tip