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RE: My Formal Introduction To Steemit Community
Very thoughtful exchange beachhermit! On teleology: you are suggesting that the drive is completely natural? Unlike, say, Ken Wilber, who asserts some mysterious eros?
And what about the idea that humans are not dealing with God per se; but rather, intermediary beings whether E.T. or Archons. In such a case God would not be relevant, but maybe some kind of impersonal nondual ground.
If you're interested head over to Integral World and read some of Joe Corbett's metaphysical speculations as far as new ideas in science.
Oh, yes, Philip, I've long considered Christian Gnosticism ( not to be confused with Judaic Gnosticism) as being a more coherent view of the Kristo's, but there are problems with that, too; namely, even a Gnostic Jesus who wasn't born of a Virgin, or die on the cross for sin had to have existed as a human! And, there is mounting evidence no such person existed, period........It wouldn't necessarily mean Gnosticism isn't true, but would really muddy the waters as far as trying to figure out the who of all these shenanigans.....
A longtime Christian friend of mine showed up last year claiming Alpha-Draconian lizards and Grey aliens are responsible for all this religious madness (control mechanisms....
Let's not say mounting evidence. I would be more inclined to say overwhelming evidence is that the Gospel records are complete and total fabrication out of Rome. There is an interesting book which I have not read – called “Cesars Christ” which aligns the ministry of Jesus with the intinerary of Titus when he came and conquered Jerusalem.
You can really begin to see into Roman history from their point of view . The way it really it was back then. Christians view the Roman times through the Gospels… they make the categorical error of assumimg it is an accurate historical record.
The reality is Roman had a problem with the Judeans who would not bow their knees to them so they had the Romanized Jew --- Josephus—totally connected on the inside aristocracy of Rome to put together a story. We are constantly being fed stories by the FakeNews network , right. The doctrine of eternal torment—let’s keep them in fear Ecclesiastis says: “There is nothing new under the sun.” It’s same old, same old, same old.” The question is how do we get off the fucking merry-go-round.
Gnosticism is about direct experience with the cosmoslogical Chrsit... who is seated at the right-hand of the Most High. Churches can screw up your thinking but you just can't through the baby out with the bath water. You'll just have to follow my next post. Our authority is truth... wherewe find it, Light exposes darkness,
Okay, I'll bite as long as everyone understands that my positions on these topics are always framed as metaphysical speculation and not as assertions of spiritual fact.
Do we imagine that God is an amputee? I think not! What, then, sits at the left hand of God?
I would argue Sophia! The 'nothingness/ground of all being' first brought into existence duality: the male and female principle! The Logos (male) and wisdom (female/Sophia). aka: Jesus and *Sophia--The two original Gnostic Aeons.
Of course, "somewhere along the line something went wrong and I swore I heard an angel singing a mournful song" (copywrite@andrewmarkmusic:)
But that's a whole other post to do with the problem of evil (theodicy).
It's clear that some Jews were equally involved in establishing Roman canon. My bet is they were involved with the creation of Islam, too....(again, another post).
The situation is obviously complex. My bet is that this is where the idea of Lucy/fer comes from......
BTW: check out the 4:50 sec for about 45 seconds as it pertains to antiquities view of the serpent in Eden: female:)
Hi Andrew. Thanks. It seemed to make sense when I wrote it but it was getting pretty late; so nice to learn that it resonated with someone.
I'm not familiar with Ken Wilber, but is it something like a Gaia hypothesis, where some sort of collective spirit guides for the good of the planet?
There are so many ways to provide an over-arching story that ties together what we see: gods, aliens, spirits. I think that those stories are there because, just as nature abhors a vacuum, the human mind abhors a lack of purpose. We are desperate to tie the strings together in neat, elegant bows.
When I was in my teens, I sometimes thought how wonderful it would be to have the surety that belief brings. The Hari Krishnas always look so happy banging their drums and dancing down the street; evangelicals take enormous comfort, even in hard times, that things are as they are for the best of reasons. I never could bring myself to believe wholeheartedly in anything, though.
I believe in what is measurable. I acknowledge that there are plenty of things we can't explain yet, but if it's a choice between saying, "I don't know" and "something mysterious and invisible did it", I go with the first choice every time.