RE: ISIS fighters don't get Islam - and that's really good
All religious books have ridiculous things in them and I don't think it is fair to just target one , Here are some from the Bible:
"Do not think that I have come to bring peace on earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother- in-law...."
-Jesus (Matthew 10:34)
Jesus says:
"If any one comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple."
Luke 14:26
"Behold the day of the Lord comes, cruel, with wrath and fierce anger...Whoever is found will be thrust through and whoever is caught will fall by the sword. Their infants will be dashed in pieces before their eyes, their houses will be plundered and their wives ravished."
Isaiah 13:9, 13:15
We should not target a specific religion by its texts if you have not seen others , You can find more crazy things in other books and not just these two
You must not be very good at pattern recognition.
For the past few generations, the amount of Muslims killing Mulsims and non-Muslims alike has statistically dwarfed anything being done by Christians globally.
Also -- Matthew 10:34 Jesus is pointing out that his message won't bring peace because the powerful will put him to death (came true).
Luke 14:26 -- Jesus was explaining that loving others (including family and friends) more than Him means they can't be his disciples. I'm venturing to guess the original Aramaic was a tad different than has been translated, but that is far more in line with the rest of his teachings than literally extolling followers to hate (which is in direct opposition to “So whatever you wish that others would do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets." (Matt 5:12)
Isaiah is Old Testament.
Killing all unbelievers and subjugating them under a non-Muslim tax in a global Shariah government is a tad bit different than what Jesus was teaching.
Btw... How many little girls did Mohammed have in his concubine? That alone should be contrast enough for anyone with a clear mind.
Islam = Submit. Not very 'Anarchy' eh ?
I myself am an Atheist so the last few points don't really make me feel anything apart from being confused to why you put it in there , True that some meanings have been lost in translation. But we should remember that this was all around about 1400 years back and all of this back then was considered fine and fair , We should all be sane enough to not do these acts but there still are groups and people doing these acts . If a few people are doing bad things it does not mean you should out bad light on all of the religion.
Here is some facts for u, how ever I am not saying the bible preaches violence
nor does the Quran, people do Islam is perfect, in other hand Muslims are not perfect,
hey, lets not forget the Talmud. Its FILLED with racism.
Apparently goy are: "as cattle" and "can be trampled like the insects beneath your feet"
As well, the whacked out of their minds rabbis that wrote that nonsense say its ok to take a child for carnal purposes as long as they're not old enough to remember it.
AND - "the black skinned peoples, and those from their regions, can never attain true spiritual enlightenment because they are like the beasts of the wild".
Religion is the cause of ALL of our woes.
The faster we grow out of it, the better.
Also, @blakemiles84. You should take a sobering look at Seal Team 6. And the shit that happened to them after they shot and killed sheik omar whats-his-name. It wasn't Bin Laden.
I know. You were military. Wake up man.
I say this with brotherly love and kindness, WE need you.
THEY don't.
Somehow Christians do not kill people by the thousand, do not boil people alive...
3 million Vietnamese, most citizens
1.5 million Iraqi, mostly citizen
unknown numbers of native (first nation) tribal people... oops, I mean 'savages'...
more than 500,000 Japanese men women and children, with 2 nuclear explosives... the only ones used so far "in action".
But no, we're not Christians... we didn't do that stuff....
No, U.S. bombing other countries were not driven by religion as today's Muslims are. That's like saying that the Soviet Union was Christian because Stalin was baptized and even studied in a seminary for some time.
You conveniently ignored the 'savages' we massacred by the many millions on our way west to claim our MANIFEST DESTINY which Americans were telling each other was PROPHESIED in the New Testament. They pointed to scripture (Revelations and Daniel) and said "here we are! in the Bible!!!"
Purely Christian religiously motivated massacre of children and women in their teepees in their villages, we rode through in a slash and burn fury... to open up the west, for all us christian white people.
And we're helping the same thing happen to the Palestinians.
We're gifting 40 billion this year to help do so.
White people want the land brown people live on, always did, always will.
Makes me wish I was non-white.
Almost. :^)
BTW, don't look now but the Russians have a VERY strong resurgent christian movement. Orthodox Christianity is in charge in Russia.
Here we make fun of Christians! Its our national past time!!
Silly jesus freaks! haha!!
Makes you wonder who this benefits, huh?
And no, they were never an evil atheist empire. Stalin NEVER burned down the churches. We were always, and are now, being lied to on a massive scale.
Nazi style... and you do know that few Germans really knew what was going on in those camps, most refused to accept it once told.
WE ARE THERE NOW. Our perspective is being corralled into a tight, easy to grasp, dumbed down for the masses, righteous clash of civilizations....
While we instigate World War 3. And encircle Moscow.
And our people remain grossly over entertained and under educated.
Best thing about it... it'll be so quick, we won't even know what hit us.
woops! I was taking a specific American (anglo) view...
Lets look at the world wide conquests of the SPANISH EMPIRE (violent as all hell when it required fearful force to subjugate the natives). Tuey flew their Christian Crucifix flag... all the while claiming they were only subjugating the entire world because they were 'missionaries' spreading the gospel .... sure.
Yeah, Stalin didn't burn churches, he just closed them down and massacred clergy, at least until his fellow Hitler attacked him, and then Uncle Joe needed support from the Orthodox Church.
Still, USSR murdered more people than the Nazis, and this probably is an achievement.
As for 'savages', perhaps it's sad that they were forced to abandon their native peaceful religions with mass human sacrifices to the "murderous" cross-bearing Christians. Oh my..