Respectful Dialogue

in #life6 years ago

I must confess I am very happy with the conversations I had with other steemians on my previous post. My message was clear but firm, because I believe that without respect as a priority we are not able to establish anything meaningful relationships, they are just not productive.


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But the response I got from people was very positive, even from those who disagreed with my positions. Honestly this is all I was asking for. All I think we owe each other is the respect to treat each other as fellow humans, not just avatars on a screen.

I don’t want anyone to think that I learned nothing from the comments and that I believe only my side of things to be correct. If anything I finally understood some of the logical concerns some people were trying to tell me, but failing to do so. I would say that most conversations broke down right after insults were thrown around, and that is not surprising.

I especially want to recognize @d-pend since he has shown by example how we should address disagreements with each other. He took the time to explain to me his position, share his experience, and at no point in time resorted to ad hominem attacks or passive aggressive behaviors. This to me signals maturity and experience, and I’m grateful for his kindness.

I guess my point is simple today, I’m feeling grateful for the dialogue and hope that we don’t default back to negativity, even in disagreements. I’ve never claimed to be the holder of truth, and at the same time, I don’t believe that imposing positions on each other is healthy for either side.

So believe me when I say we have made progress as a community, as small as it may look for some. And I am feeling pretty grateful.

As always, all the best

@chbartist

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In reality it is not that they are not productive, it is that a relationship without respect is nothing, a conversation without respect is nothing.
The truth I have not read your previous post to comment or comment on him, but what is certain is that no matter our position or how much we think that the other is wrong, the important thing is to put on the shoe of the other person to try to understand why he thinks in one way or another, and in many cases we have to understand that the battle is lost to foolish people, who do not accept comments from others and resort to insults to feel winners.
In reality, the real gain is to learn from the opinions of others, to take their visualization in order to work on improving ours.
The truth is very relative, depends on a very subjective view of the world and situations ... THERE IS NO ABSOLUTE TRUTH
Everyone believes in their truth, in their world, but is surrounded by thousands of people in their worlds and the only way to progress is to coexist.

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Thank you for your comment and time! All the best!

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wow.what a nice thing.

I love reading your post. Very good post. The dialog is very respectable.
You can hold this respect to yourself

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I was very grateful for the interactions that were had on your last post. The way you responded showed me a lot about your character and I walked away from the situation with a better understanding of the intentions behind your style of using STEEM.

People complain a lot about bid bots and vote buying, but I think the beautiful thing about this blockchain is the sense of radical freedom. There are a million different ways to use Steemit and that makes it a more exciting place!

If there are major imbalances, the best way to fix them is on a chain level with a hard fork, or by building layers on top that are opt-in like @steem-ua. It's a little silly to blame people for using tools that exist because they are profitable under current rules.

Have a great rest of your day @chbartist :-)

Thank you again for your comment @d-pend certainly you are one of the nicest people i've had the pleasure to meet on this platform. have a beautiful day yourself.

I’m glad I talked to you myself and didn’t listen to what other people had to say who were judging without direct knowledge. I hope I can keep an open mind no matter how old I get physically. I can tell you are a good person.

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I can say the same about you. It does not matter if you are younger because when we have intelligence and wisdom that comes naturally with life we always have what we learn from other people and it does not matter if they are younger or not.

I had gone through your comment that you leave on previous post of @chbartest thanks for your valuable words. The lines you wrote was self explanatory there was a massage in that comment. All information was given through the help of that comment was very valuable thanks for your time to writing such type of amezing comment. I find all the information is related with our life. Thanks again @d-pend

I think use of voteing bots is not bad because
Now days it is a way to promote your valuable content and share you valuable words with other steamiens because use of bots give attention to the post. Bots help to bring our quality content to the eye of others.

@ajsharma333

I don't think you considered the situation of bidbots/self-voting since you seem to think that it can be fixed through code changes. Yes, maybe with tools that empower everyone we can address those issues, yet by making the tools it's no guarantee that they in turn won't be abused. In the real world, a weapon can be used for profit regardless if the profit was from Self Defense or Robbery. So on here, abusing something is never going to be fixed by code, as those that are entrusted to Protect in the real world can use their authority, power, and tools to destroy, regardless of the immemorial laws which exist.

Yes, but you can build a system in which manual curation is more profitable than any form of automation. I'm not saying it would be easy, it would be extremely difficult. But I believe it is possible, though it might require absolute identity verification like some sort of DNA-computer interfacing which is obviously not available to the general public. I also think it would require a hybrid linear/superlinear rewards algorithm. You are correct that any tool can be abused, and it's a developer's job to forsee as many possible avenues of abuse and prevent against them. No system will ever be perfectly resistant to manipulation because humans will always find new ways to be devious.

So until this almost impossible thing happens we can't blame people for abusing the system, correct?

What's your view? I've never heard of blame being productive for much of anything, but I'm open to hearing your perspective on the situation.

Blame is the other side of the coin from justify. You cannot have one without the other, so is shame to honor and condemnation to commend, and while it will be nice if we hadn't the need for those words in our world, as it stands there's plenty of times when things aren't justifiable, or honorable or commendable, and I'm one to call it as I see it.

Blame gives people a chance to correct themselves and if you don't extend that chance how or why should they change? It's not as if failure isn't the best opportunity to learn, and blame is simply pointing at a failure.

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@chbartist As per my point of view and you opinion in this post , Honesty is the best policy, even it is more difficult in this world. After reading your several post I found that your word comes from your heart and you are honest with yourself.

People always respect the word from heart and as human there is always space for healthy argument. If we not argue or not put our point of view, we will be like a frog in the well.

Off course nobody holds the truth but nobody knows the everything. With the help of healthy argument and avoid negative people and their opinion we can help each other with opinion and build a healthy community.

Thank you for your kind words. You have understood exactly what I want to share and about being honest with myself I can assure you that I have built my life by always being honest with myself and with people. To reach our goals we do not need to climb into other people's heads. Regards

Dear sir!
You are absolutely right, do not earn respect, but rather from your good behavior and your efficiency and your positive attitude.
The ritual of all of us is clearly reflected in our behavior, speaking, language, living, etiquette. Sir you have mentioned about @d-pend sir. In fact he is very kind and very behaviourful, he always gives the right advice. I am their very big fan of myself.

Thank you for your comment! Regards!

Yes! chbartist! respectful dialogue always help the people to get possitive attitude like you.
Whenever I comment in your every blog you support me with a respectful dialogue. Its a great thing to me. You are a real motivator in steemit for us. your every article help me to get possitive attitude, communication with the people, networking method, vast amount of your career experience varieties kind of manner and thaught.
I decide to write an article about you in my account to motivate the people. How explain you about my idea????

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Thanks, if I understood correctly you want to write an article about me on your blog? And you want me to give you some direction on how to write? If that's what I understood, I'll just give you a tip. Write what you want my friend, use your heart and it will give you the right words. Another thing, do not worry about being perfect because neither of us are. Regards

Thank you friends! I already have started to write about you.

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Hi @Chbartist,
I would like to inform you that. On your posts only I see most of the STEEMIT members try to upvote each other.
What does it means?
All the articles posted by you about positive thinking and helping each other already started working.
If this same changes will be seen in all other posts. Then you will be the only person to be appreciated for this.
I am continuously following you. And I can clearly see the change among STEEMIT member because of your articles.
And I always say your article motivates many STEEMIT members to be positive and try to help others as much as possible.
I always wait for your motivational articles.
Thanks.

Exactly, I've been insisting on people voting on each other's comments because I understand that people who dedicate their time to make comments based on the post deserve at least the respect and receive something for the time they dedicated to comment. I have also seen this change and I am very happy to see people with 5,6,7,8 upvotes of all who participate here in my blog. For me this is the true way to build a community and so am I do not like and do not agree with the flags, but I will still write in another post about it. For now the important thing is that people understand exactly what I'm trying to promote here that is simply that some help others.

Truth be told, though i am new but so far i have read through peoples posts, it is only in @chbartist post that i see almost everyone upvoting one another on steemit

Yes, we have to give respect to each and every human being. Thou there will be different views and conflict but that doesn't mean we have to be oppressive.

Butter comes after churning the milk.

A good healthy discussion and argument are always benefited by both. But the culprit is ego that comes in between.

"it is that a relationship without respect is nothing, a conversation without respect is nothing."
This all can be possible if we are humble and egoless. This culprit ego never let us listen to others and never let us understand others. It is always "I" that want to make right.
Some people want to hurt @chbartist reputation, if you do not agree with him it is always welcome that you discuss with him and make your point. As far I know him that he will understand. Let we show some maturity and keep aside all the ego and work together to make a better community.

Beautiful comment! I agree with you. There is a lot of ego in all of this. But I'm still with mine in place. LOL Let's go! Thank's for your time

I also want to appreciate @chrbartist, the man who ignited this dialogue and we all learnt a new perspective we may have ignored or never knew that it existed.

What I have learnt from your series of post I have been putting into practice
both on this platform and in my every day life , and I must confess I am seeing positive result, I don't have much steem yet but I can see the increase in my reputation.

Each and every one of us, carries a unique experience and we can only get to appreciate it when we interact constructively with ourselves. The level of maturity displayed by my fellow steemians on this platform has shown that STEEMIT has evolved beyond infancy stage and we can only be grateful to our fellow steemians from all nations present and the developer's of this platform.

Finally, May we be the light we seek in other's because their is strength in unity of purpose.

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Exactly my friend. People who read my previous posts will realize that there are many teachings that I am sharing for them to apply in their lives. I am not the owner of the truth but I am trying to share events that I am sure many people will still see in their lives and I try to tell people what worked for me. Whether or not they will apply theirs is a decision of each person. I wish you the best!

I will be grateful if you will teach me more

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I will be grateful if you will teach me more

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We may not always agree with every one of our neighbors, friends or co-worker. That's life. But it doesn't mean that we start heating them it's part of living we have to be mutual respectful.

Mutual respect! That's what it takes to be friends or beloved one.

Most of the relationship and friendships are based on mutual respect and mutual understanding.

Mutual respect it could be seen everywhere at home or as well as office or your work place. Give respect to other if you want to receive it.

It's great you got good response from other people in order to build a positive community. It's great it can be seen on your previous posts comments how people are supporting each other and trying to share there views and opinion.

@chbartist I especially go to your last post where you had a conversation with @d-pend when I read that post and after that the comment by @d-pend I really got some valuable things which is very helpful in our life.

You are doing great in order to build a positive people community. You also getting a good response from hello steemians. It could be seen in the comments where everyone express there feeling and participate in the discussion positively and comment accordingly and every positive comment get 9-12 votes .

That time is not so far when there is a big community of positive people

@asks

Exactly my friend, as I said in a previous response to someone else who commented on this post: I've been insisting on people voting on each other's comments because I understand that people who dedicate their time to make comments based on the post deserve at least the respect and receive something for the time they dedicated to comment. I have also seen this change and I am very happy to see people with 5,6,7,8 upvotes of all who participate here in my blog. For me this is the true way to build a community and so am I do not like and do not agree with the flags, but I will still write in another post about it. For now the important thing is that people understand exactly what I'm trying to promote here that is simply that some help others. Regards

Yes of course waiting for your next awesome article. Keep posting such types of positive article to spread positivity in steemit community
@asks