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RE: Alpha episode 2: Is there more to life than this? Join the Alpha Course for a share of the SBD from this series of posts
Jesus for me is just as all the other prophets, a chosen slave of god whom god assigned to summon people to the true path.
However, there are some attributes of Jesus distinguishing him from other prophets, the most important one being that he was raised up to god and that he will come back to earth again!
He was never crucified and killed and nor did he die as many people believe.
He will come back and his coming will be one of the sign of the hour, the final hour.
Like all prophets before and after him, they were all called liars.
You said He was never crucified and killed and nor did he die as many people believe. Just wondering what evidence do you have to support your claims?
Also, you haven't addressed any of the evidence or specific points raised in the video. Not sure if you've had a chance to watch the video, but would love to hear more from you once you've had a chance to watch the video.
Thanks again for being part of the discussion.
Hello mate, sorry for late reply!
Based on all the researches I did by reading all the different 'holy books' I made my own opinion and reach to that conclusion which really make sense to me.
I'll mention a simple logic : Being so powerful with all types of miracles performed, do you think someone like Jesus can be killed just like that by simple human being? And as many are claiming that he was the son of god, how come a son of god got such treatment on earth that has been created by his father!?
Concerning the video, i really like the mention of the teaching of Jesus, these were powerful teachings. I'm really having a great time participating in the discussion!
Hi mate, no problem at all. Thanks for your comment.
That's a very good question: I'll mention a simple logic : Being so powerful with all types of miracles performed, do you think someone like Jesus can be killed just like that by simple human being? And as many are claiming that he was the son of god, how come a son of god got such treatment on earth that has been created by his father!?
Let me try my best to respond to it. What you've said here is exactly at the core of Christianity and why so many billions of people throughout history have followed and trusted in Jesus.
Yes, you are right that since he has done so many miracles, he is more than able to save himself and not be killed, and he too said that to those who capture him. But the reason Jesus came into the world was to offer his own life to pay for the rebellion and sins of the human race. Because you see, from God's perspective, each one of us have fallen short of what God intends for us. We lie and cheat, hate and kill, are selfish and unloving... and we all deserve God's wrath and punishment because of our rebellion and the evil things we have done or thought.
But God's plan was to send his own Son, Jesus, to take the punishment for our sins and the bad things we have done and said. That is why Jesus voluntarily went to the cross and died in our place. This is what we mean by how much he loves us and his grace (unmerited favor) towards us. You see God is a God of justice, and our sins and rebellion need to be punished, but he sent his own and only Son, to die in our place. And as he was crucified, Jesus said "forgive them Father, for they know not what they do."
Grace, love, justice and forgiveness. All these things are at the core of Christianity, and all because Jesus voluntarily sacrificed himself for us.
Thanks for taking the time to read this. Sorry it became such a long answer.
Bless you bro.
Oh thanks so much for such an insightful reply my friend, i really appreciate it! Thanks to you I am actually learning a lot of things that I was not aware of, that's why I am always searching and learning!
I have the check the 3rd part now! Will comment later on!
Hi mate, I will be putting up Alpha episode 4 shortly. If you'd like to continue with the series, please come join us in the discussion in Alpha episode 3 within the next couple of days. Thanks :)
Thanks for the reminder mate! I've just watched part 3 and made my comments too! Looking forward to the next one!
I can be late to comment, but rest assured i'll always be there!
Cheers
@progressivechef!
Thanks mate. :)
If you want to prove it, read the Bible, (Galatians 4 verses 22-24) Do you think you can explain those verses away? The best thing to do is to act like you never saw this comment.
Hi @geneticmemory
Sorry I just saw your comment. I see that you have made several comments quoting the same Galatians 4:22-24 passage "For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by the slave woman and the other by the free woman.
His son by the slave woman was born according to the flesh, but his son by the free woman was born as the result of a divine promise.
These things are being taken figuratively: The women represent two covenants. One covenant is from Mount Sinai and bears children who are to be slaves: This is Hagar."
Ok, not sure what point you are trying to make. Please elaborate. Thanks
I'm glad you replied. the first thing I need to point out is that you are using strange Bible. By that, I mean that the word has been changed or at best a bad translation. The words in question are "are being taken figuratively" that is not what the original text stated. "These things are an allegory" is what is stated in all bible that are not new age "New American Bible". Why were the words change (a question to myself?). These two things are not the same, there are close but no cigar! When one said something is an allegory we know that we have to think of them in terms of an allegory. But when one uses the word figuratively it could mean you don't have to concern yourself with it.
There is more my insites on this subject at this page.
http://geneticmemory.org/index.php/wu-files/45-meat-for-strong-men
Also you can check out
Palm 78:21 dark saying
Prov 1:6 understanding proverbs
2 Cor 3:15 the vail
I'm also all ears to hear what evidence you have to support your claim that Jesus was never crucified. Even the most stringent method of studying the history points to the death of Jesus by crucifixion. You have to throw the history away to believe anything else. And if you're willing to throw the history or evidence away, then no discussion or argument among us is gonna be fruitful.
Please forgive me as I stated below I never can tell when a reply is made to me. 17 days later is almost unforgivable. if you believe the verse as stated then it is talking about a root story in the bible. If the root story is an allegory then all of the stories connected to the root story are also allegories. Also one might think that the real name should be used. There was no "J" in the languish at that time, so who are we really talking about? One more thing what history are you talking about? The bible is not a history book. I am in aggrement with Mark Twain when it comes to that question
With Respect.