RE: An Update On My Curation Habits and Why You're Better Off Buying Your Votes and Earning Peanuts
I hear your view and I agree with much of it. I know this will trigger everyone I am talking to on this thread. I wish I didn't hold myself to honesty in this moment.
Looking at this like a business the easiest thing to replace on this chain is the content creators. Investors.. hard to find. Developers, hard to find. Content Creators and people who want to write and create are everywhere, most of them will flock to money at some point. The successful ones are used to paying for visibility, marketing and shelf-space. So, they will not be shocked by this environment. The smart ones also know their current economic model is falling apart. They will come, they will adapt to whatever the current culture is. That is my view.
I know content creators will hate me for saying it, but I come from corporate world and sometimes some of this might feel dirty to some. To me this space is beautiful and still developing. Eventually, and likely soon, the tide will change.
We have all these people building applications on the site. They also want to earn. Once we get a little bit further down this path, they will be begging for talented content creators to come and post on their site.
That is where the tide turns in your favor.
I don't want to offend, I just tend to call it how I see it, and it can be off putting to some.
You're right. I guess I'll leave. I'm sure another me will take my place.
See ya!
I hope you don't, but if you do, I would miss your content and sense of humor.
It seems a very immature way to handle one person saying. Yep, I like you, I like your content, I engage with you and I upvote you, but that isn't enough for you, I have to own your ideas as well.
That price is too high. I hope you stay if you leave that is your choice.
I'll be here tomorrow either way.
My post here today was about people stabbing me in the back and my decision to move forward without helping them. I don't care if you have a difference of opinion. Nowhere, in anything I said was I bitching about the state of my blog, but it is unfortunate that I go out of my way, make sacrifices, and end up getting burned.
If I start buying votes, that'll take whatever some of these minnows gain through buying votes away from them. I could push them down and out of sight and play that game too. More of the noobs would see my rep, my wallet, and be lured over to my blog just because of that. They would ignore the minnows I leave in my wake. I do not want to do that, but I could, easily. They are in enough of a jam without me and others coming around to step on their toes. I refuse to do it.
Understood and clear.
People against buying votes sounds like communists. The real world people buy promotion and advertising. Google Adwords, Facebook advertising and Amazon Marketplace.
"Blah, blah, blah, something, something, something communism."
Seriously, I've been a libertarian for a decade plus, I've worked hard to build a life for myself, while championing individualism.
I've taken no handouts. I've starved without eating anything for nearly two weeks straight because I refused to take government money after running out of my savings.
I'm not a socialist.
And despite all of the above, I'm so sick of the fact that libertarians never come up with anything else to say besides "communism".
I can't tell people whether or not to buy votes.
However, I'm a little weirded out by the whole thing.
What's the benefit for the vote buyer? You get to the trending page. Then what? What happens?
A few minnows think you're a hot shot and give you small upvotes.
Isn't the profit made basically the few dollars you would have made otherwise anyway?
Can someone walk me through the thing?
It's not like being on the trending page earns one any worthwhile votes. The whales don't curate, nobody else's votes matter.
So what gives?
Thanks for a great response. I highly appreciate that!
Awesome!
You are only considering a few vote buyers and a few bots in this view. MOST bot users are just trying to gain visibility out of frustration with the lack of engagement and votes. The bots are great for keeping some of the minnows around they send. .03 cents and they gain a little bit of traction. Oh, how I wish we had them when we were little minnows.
There are some scammers and some who do things I would consider abusive. I flag them when I see them, because I am not a pussy and I don't care about missing out on a few cents in curation.
I am way happier with the trending page now than I have ever been. It is a surprise every day, and every single user can make a decision to put a real investment into their content to get some attention. Most of those users believe in the future of the platform enough to risk or even spend moeny on the bots. That is who I want to retain.
I LITERALLY don't care how awesome you think your writing/art/singing or how much you hate money or whether or not you want all these other people on the site who are moving money around on the site. I don't care. That isn't what it is about for me, and believe it or not I find no moral conflict in that. I do care very much about my character. I just don't care what you think of it, based on some weird arbitrary idea you hold.
If we take the bidbots away, we go back to the old crew on the trending page. I am not for that at all.
If people want to ban themselves from using the bots due to idealization of some absurd moral rationale, or commitment to a certain of content, fuck 'em.
I can only speak for myself, but things were better for me, personally, in the beginning - before the vote bots. I’m much worse off now.
Though a lot of other things have changed, as well.
I’ve never cared about the trending page, so I’m not sure where this weird attack is coming from.
The only thing I hate about the trending page is the fact that I’m not there. But it is what it is.
Other than that, I just find it boring. It’s always boring. But I recognize that I’m the problem because I just care about things that are pretty niche. Other people may find it fun, I dunno.
I only care about a few things here:
What I’m making, first and foremost. Most of my frustrations are due to my lack of rewards.
The few people who legitimately read and care about my content.
As a continuation of the above, I care about what they’re making. And want them to do better for purely subjective reasons.
Nothing else I really care about.
The attack wasn't personal, it was a list of all the weird things people say to justify hating the bots.
The reason your rewards are down is you are always telling your followers to stop upvoting you. Do you ever wonder if that is part of it.
In my opinion we have 2 big problems... Distribution, like 12 people have enough SP to give a decent vote. Which is what created the demand for the bots and engagement. So, here we are engaging. :)
I said nothing about hanging the bots. I just said I don’t get their point.
The engagement gained from them is fake. Those people don’t read, they’re noobies thinking commenting on a high paying votes will make them money.
People can use them all they want, I just see it as a waste of money, which I don’t understand.
But then again so are Toyotas, in my opinion.
Yep. I misunderstood. See my other reply. :)
Don't call me a fucking communist.