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RE: 5 Compelling Reasons Why The Youtube Shooting Has Disappeared From Headlines
Saying that property is theft is a bit of an oxymoron. You can't have theft without property. If they have violated their TOS then a lawsuit is an appropriate response. They are still not a monopoly.
Well that is irrelevant because I never said "property is theft". You can have theft without property, it is called "intellectual property" and it protects the investment used to produce it, but again this has zero to do with my argument and I am not even sure why you are bringing it up. The matter at hand is a violation of TOS which is a CONTRACTUAL violation. As far as being a monopoly, it certainly is: https://www.investopedia.com/terms/m/monopoly.asp
I don't know why either. I think that was meant to be a response to something else.
But like I said, lawsuits are an appropriate response if they have violated their TOS.
Neither facebook nor youtube have a monopoly. In fact, they are in the same market and are owned by different companies. They don't even sell anything to their users. And as far as competitors, here's a very incomplete list:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_social_networking_websites
This doesn't include things like Wordpress and Steemit among others or various video sites.
Google+ has more registered users than facebook. Sites like twitter and tumblr while having significantly fewer registered users, still have hundreds of millions each.
They all serve different end user markets, you can argue till you are blue in the face but Youtube/Google is a monopoly by any definition. Just because other options exist doesn't mean they are competitors. The user base of any other video sites combined are a pittance compared to Youtube.
And you can yell "monopoly" all day long but saying it doesn't make it true.
"NO U" Isn't an argument. I supported my position with facts. Now you try.
I did. Repeatedly. You just choose to ignore them. You've offered no evidence facebook or youtube is a monopoly whereas I gave you numerous examples of competitors and even some statistics.
Actually you argued there are other options therefor it is not a monopoly. My response was that all of those other options combined are a pittance compared to Youtube. You argued sites like Facebook and Twitter are competition. My reply was they do not serve the same user market. I ignored nothing and responded with facts to counter your arguments. As far as "statistics", you did no such thing. If you had bothered to read your own source you will notice Youtube is not even on that list, almost like they consider it a different user market... It is a media website, not a social networking site.
You argued with opinions and unsubstantiated statements, not facts. Youtube and Facebook overlap significantly in many ways even if the user markets are not identical. The point is Facebook (and other social networking sites) can be used to reach a large audience with video content. Just because Youtube is a media website does not mean that it is not a social networking website and just because Facebook is a social networking website does not mean that it is not a media website. Youtube did not start out as a social networking site but it added such features over time. Facebook did not start off as a media website but it has added video features including large video uploads and live streaming.
Youtube is a free to use video service. You have other viable choices with a significant audience, therefore it is not a monopoly. Even if the user base of these other services are smaller, they are still significant.
But for a more direct comparison with some actual numbers, according to Wikipedia Youtube has 800 million unique monthly users. Daily Motion, just one direct competitor to youtube, has 300 million unique monthly users. Obviously youtube is more successful but it sure isn't a monopoly. I don't agree that 300 million vs. 800 million is a "pittance". If you don't want to consider youtube a social networking site (it has all the elements so I don't know why it wouldn't be), then here is a list of sites that are video related: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_hosting_services (facebook is on this list too).
A couple of other's with significant traffic:
LiveLeak: 45 million+ unique monthly users
Vimeo: 100 million+ unique monthly users
Facebook: 2.2 billion unique monthly users
Then new services such as DTube and bitchute are popping up all the time. Their success remains to be seen (Bitchute already has ~30,000 unique visitors per day).
Incidentally, the definition of monopoly (according to Merriam-Webster) is: "Exclusive ownership through legal privilege, command of supply, or concerted action". So it's more than just "most successful by a lot". So even if I agreed that those other options combined were a "pittance" compared to youtube (which I do not) then that still wouldn't make Youtube a monopoly.