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RE: Steemit vegetarians, "deathless meat" is almost here...what do you think?
Your lifestyle is only possible thanks to modern agricultural technology and the high energy density and amount of cheap vegetarian food availabe. If you don't have that you need meat or you harm yourself and die.
@doodlebear Spoken like someone who has truly never grown their own food.
lol nice one.. but dead wrong: I grew up surrounded by farms;-)
and I grew up surrounded by tech factories... doesn't mean I know how to manufacture a microchip
Actually, "urban farms" are a growing trend. More and more people are giving up on the animal products and/or buying as much locally sourced organic or "grown with organic methods" as possible. Smart people are giving up their 2nd day job to grow food. Modern agriculture is really more of a problem than a solution but I do agree that to feed our large populations we need to keep the best of the modern technology and apply as much of it as you can to organic and more natural practices.
Not exactly true. There were plenty of cultures pre-modern-agriculture who lived on little to no animal products whatsoever. There are even still places where you can do that, in the wild, right now.
There is a WIDE variety of "modern agricultural technology" like greenhouses, aquaponics, hugleculture, etc. that is perfectly harmless, but those don't involve messing with DNA itself. Working in tandem with the plants & environment is a whole different story from trying to play god.
Maybe in tropical places where you can harvest 3 times a year. But I remember even Bantus living in the deepest jungle eat plenty of meat.
Here is a documentary about a couple that lives in the jungle of New Zealand. She used to be a vegetarian, but had to give it up to get enough proteins etc:
But yes, sure, with modern technology pretty much everything is possible. Also tasty deathless meat. (actually, I can't wait to try it^^)
Lost any credibility there, as protein deficiency is almost impossible unless you aren't getting enough calories to survive anyway.
I did add etc - or is that not a thing in English? (not my mother language..)
You did, and that is the proper term. My point though, is that any time someone references "not enough protein", it's clear there is some level of misunderstanding nutrition and nurtritional sources. (not necessarily you, as I assume you're giving an example of something they said in the documentary)
My English is mainly patched together from school+Netflix&HBO.. I only used proteins because it sounded right;-)
But you're right, I am more or less out of my depth from that point on. What I do know from watching and doing is how much of a difference it makes in agriculture to have good soil versus bad soil and also fertilizer and none. For example, in regions with bad soil and no fertilizer (I'm thinking about Central Asia/Afghanistan), people usually have goats roaming around, because they collect the thinly spread plant nutrient much more efficiently than it is possible to do with cultivating the land by hand. The detour over goat milk and meat becomes a necessary trick for survival and my point is that you can only avoid this by living in the right place or having enough technology/processing knowledge.
Well your english is quite good :-) "not enough protein" is one of the most common, though factually incorrect, arguments against veganism.
Absolutely, the soil (and microbiology in it) is just about the most important thing for the survival of humans, and every other living thing on the planet.
I would argue your last point a bit, it is quite easy (not simple, but with the knowledge, easy) to revitalize the soil.
Even in pure desert, we can create lush food forests: