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RE: LA Has Criminalized Poverty By Making It Illegal To Sleep In Cars and RVs

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I can't help but put myself in the shoes of the folks living in those apartment complexes adjacent to the squatters camp, that has to suck for them right?
Have you ever had to deal with squatters where you live?

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Yeah that must suck looking at the people across the street that sleep knowing that anyone could victimize them effortlessly, nobody should have to sleep with those thoughts.
#FWP

Have you ever had to squat to live? Have you not yet to put yourself in their shoes and phrased that same question? is it that big of a deal to spit it out, what would you do? surely you've sympathized with them and have come up with an answer to the question of what to do?

I am taking that as a "no, I personally have never had to deal with squatters".
I have, it's terrible. If squatters moves into the building where you live I would feel bad for you, in the abstract you think you would feel bad for them but in real life if that happened to you then you would feel bad for you, and rightly so.

The city should come through there with firehouses and garbage trucks once a week. That would solve the problem.

Yeah, that's the problem, not that you're numb to other's plight, I'm sure they go out of their way to make it miserable too, usually hurling verbal abuse on top of rotten food.

I've been homeless before holmes. I don't tend to sympathize with those that have all the advantages of work and numerous support structures but I can see what you mean, we homeless are an eyesore to you, and you already know what to do about us.

we'll see if you sing the same tune when some squatters move into your building. I've spent a night on the street in California, the problem is that it is not so bad, what do you need a house for if it does not get that cold and almost never rains and you feel comfortable shitting in the street?
Meth is a terrible thing, once people are on it, which is something they choose to do, they are responsible for the plight they find themselves in, it's sad but meth addicts seldom recover even with treatment. Don't do drugs. Meth makes people do evil shit so I can't excuse it and I don't feel bad for them.

Trump is right that we need to reopen our mental hospitals because a lot of homeless people are mentally ill and so they should probably be in mental hospitals getting treatment.

What the city did do there is put all those people in motels, how long until the garbage piles and fires in the motels force them to be condemned?

Meth is a terrible thing, once people are on it, which is something they choose to do, they are responsible for the plight they find themselves in, it's sad but meth addicts seldom recover even with treatment.

Chew on that a little bit, it's kinda contradictory, meth is terrible thing once they are on it (addiction) but it's their choice (support system, do they even know they have that choice etc).

Meth makes people do evil shit so I can't excuse it and I don't feel bad for them.

Is it the drug or is it the person? Chew on that also.

Trump is right that we need to reopen our mental hospitals because a lot of homeless people are mentally ill and so they should probably be in mental hospitals getting treatment.

Bro, research the freaking inception and LONG established history of mental asylums and "hospitals". Listen to but a handful of people's disturbing experience with the doctors and nurses, who love the meth!

What the city did do there is put all those people in motels, how long until the garbage piles and fires in the motels force them to be condemned?

You forget bro that you don't even have the respect for these people to sympathize with them. To you it's your way or the highway, quite simple and indifferent, numb to anything but poor first world problems. Even if you throw some help to these people, make it measly enough that they barely survive there so then you can say that "we did everything bring in the dozers they ruined it again". (survive is living right?)

Indifference self perpetuating.

people who choose to be homeless in coastal California have only first world problems. You can rent a very nice three bedroom house with two bathrooms and a garage and a yard in Modesto for $1000 a month, but it is not hip or near the beach.
It's the drug, sadly by criminalizing cocaine it created a demand for a cheap alternative and there was meth.
But crack heads don't have the stamina to rip all the pipes out of someone's house, they don't generally have the drive to build elaborate shantytowns.
Cocaine is actually fairly easy to quit and low on the scale of addictiveness, relative to meth for sure. Crack heads neglect their kids, meth heads abuse them.

people who choose to be homeless in coastal California have only first world problems. You can rent a very nice three bedroom house with two bathrooms and a garage and a yard in Modesto for $1000 a month, but it is not hip or near the beach

Yeah perhaps if one had 1000, the utilities... but it's a matter of choice.

It's the drug, sadly by criminalizing cocaine it created a demand for a cheap alternative and there was meth.
But crack heads don't have the stamina to rip all the pipes out of someone's house, they don't generally have the drive to build elaborate shantytowns.
Cocaine is actually fairly easy to quit and low on the scale of addictiveness, relative to meth for sure. Crack heads neglect their kids, meth heads abuse them.

Then it's more than a matter of choice.

I fully support legalizing cocaine.