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RE: Google: Beyond Good and "Don't Be Evil"

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"A lot of people could choose not to use facebook and then they would cease to exist or become the next Myspace, not so with the government."

I am confident you are completely wrong about this. We will ignore government and every form of coercive oppression, when we possess nominal security and manufacturing capability to do so safely.

It's just a matter of time and engineering.

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I don't use Facebook, do you? Kids today are probably already using the next Facebook. Facebook doesn't really have anything but its users if it bans and pisses half of them off then some other site will arise to service them.
3d printing or whatever won't make it so you can ignore the government if by ignore the government you mean violate its laws. The thing about actual coercive oppression is that it's sort of hard to ignore, thus the coercion.
What do you feel is the most coercive oppression the US government practices?

"What do you feel is the most coercive oppression the US government practices?"

Whew! So many choices... I just can't decide. Perhaps the incessant danger of kidnapping, enslavement, or worse endemic to ubiquitous road pirates, although they're not officially part of the USG, merely agents of it's subsidiaries.

You fail to note the knock on effects that 3D printing, mesh networks, cryptocurrencies, modern security technology, aquaponics, and much, much more will produce as the concatenation of their affects increases.

When your home is secure from an armed assault by mechanized infantry - as is technologically possible today - just how will overlords enforce their edicts?

Government is obsolete. We're just waiting for dispersion of the tech to our hands.

Whew! So many choices... I just can't decide. Perhaps the incessant danger of kidnapping, enslavement, or worse endemic to ubiquitous road pirates, although they're not officially part of the USG, merely agents of it's subsidiaries.

What's funny is that all your hyperbolic paranoid fears that don't really happen actually are legitimate fears in places other than the US. If you follow the traffic laws then traffic cops won't usually bother you, when was the last time you were pulled over? I haven't been pulled over in years.

You fail to note the knock on effects that 3D printing, mesh networks, cryptocurrencies, modern security technology, aquaponics, and much, much more will produce as the concatenation of their affects increases.

"effects" None of those things make government obsolete. All the new technology will just create new things that will have to be regulated by the government. I have quite a bit of experience with aquaponics. Do you produce all of your own food with aquaponics?

When your home is secure from an armed assault by mechanized infantry - as is technologically possible today - just how will overlords enforce their edicts?

First of all it is not, but I would like to know how you think it is possible to be, but if you really could make your home secure from an armed assault by mechanized infantry they have all manner of air power that you are not secure from. You have to remember that technology costs money, you and I could build nice self sufficient compounds if we put a lot of time and money and effort in, those are things that the vast majority of people lack. But I don't want to live on a stupid compound or have to grow all of my own food, almost no one does and a lot of people who think they do would actually hate it if they had to in real life. Who are the "overloads" specifically? When was the last time they enforced their edicts on your with their mechanized infantry?

"...all your hyperbolic paranoid fears..."

I do not share certain information for reasons, and proof my concerns aren't any of the descriptors you used is amongst that information.

@larkenrose's most recent post should better respond to your query regarding traffic stops. Road pirates possess arbitrary power today, and that they haven't afflicted you with it is merely anecdotal evidence. We both know police are more deadly to US civilians than terrorists - or at least that's what the data shows.

"None of those things make government obsolete."

They will. All of them together, fully dispersed throughout the population of the world make involuntary oppression - government - impossible.

"First of all it is not, but I would like to know how you think it is possible to be, but if you really could make your home secure from an armed assault by mechanized infantry they have all manner of air power that you are not secure from. You have to remember that technology costs money..."

Is so. The tech is not widely understood, and is desperately repressed by those presently wielding power, but I am not alone in grasping that armies are technologically obsolete, and as the tech disperses will become less successful at projecting power until they are abandoned altogether. Air power is no different.

I am not referring to armed compounds, but tarpaper shacks, trailer parks, and condos. Neither will all the world fail to have these technologies, not only one particular individual. If you haven't experienced your neighbors assisting in your defense, you probably aren't offending your enemies enough.

I have. I am confident that communities benefiting from the increasing freedom that such technologies as I have mentioned, and availed of the security tech I have not specified for good reasons, will not permit their members being culled around them. This isn't speculative. It's the historical record. It's also my personal experience in the last 30 days.

Think for a minute. If armed troops aren't able to successfully deploy into your residence in such a place, are oppressive governments going to nuke you? There are costs to deploying troops, and government is only tenable as long as a nominal population supports it. One of the most expensive things about oppression is the cost in support.

Money is becoming obsolete. Scoff away, but I have less and less need of it daily. Why would I need money when I can make any product I desire out of resources that have no cost myself?

How will government regulate, tax, or enforce laws when they cannot deploy troops successfully to capture or kill dissenters? While all this tech isn't presently in your hands, or mine, or anybody's, what possibly could prevent it from eventually getting there?

Extinction, and nothing less.

Road pirates possess arbitrary power today, and that they haven't afflicted you with it is merely anecdotal evidence. We both know police are more deadly to US civilians than terrorists - or at least that's what the data shows.

We both know that anyone who would use that statistic is trying to mislead us, right? That's a BLM statistic to try to use peoples stupid outsized fear of terrorists to hype another fake ginned up fear. Their power is far from arbitrary, it is very very clearly defined. I note you didn't say the last time you were pulled over. Don't speed, use your turn signals don't swerve around and you won't be pulled over. If you are pulled over the police don't actually accept funds, they write tickets, if you didn't do whatever they say you did then go fight the ticket. Whoop de fucking do, worse case scenario you pay a ticket. In other countries you can be hijacked by real road pirates who rob and kill you. That's why it's hyperbole.

Do you grow all of your own food with aquaponics?

I would really like to know how I am supposed to make my home secure from mechanized infantry, just a hint? Its not very secure if disclosing it renders it ineffective.

"...another fake ginned up fear."

The number of Americans killed by police is not a BLM fiction.

"Their power is far from arbitrary, it is very very clearly defined"

Perhaps you have not been understanding what I have written about my experiences. I have seen illegal acts committed by such forces, know of others I did not personally witness, and have credible evidence of far more, and this since my beardless youth.

I note you didn't watch the @larkenrose video, as it would disprove your thesis that simply not violating the law precluded being pulled over, or that being pulled over was no threat to safety..

You also remain in denial that being hijacked by real road pirates in America happens daily. May it never happen to you as it has to me.

Regarding security technology emerging and recent, you can discover much with some searching and a bit of thought. I will mention some old and relatively unthreatening vectors that you can further research, like Henricus Loos, Jose Delgado, and the like.

Have fun!

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