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RE: Money is The Motive and The Rest is Just a Story With Little Truth About Steem Blockchain!!!

in #newsteem5 years ago

The code cannot enforce no self votes or spreading votes, as there will always be ways to get around that for malicious actors.
That's why we have downvotes. Don't see it as war we wage against you. It's a form of pushing you into the right direction. The hope is not that you disappear, but that you start honoring the concept of Proof of Brain.

It is basically good to support others and grow, but in practice, this is impossible because the source of money (Steem) is limited.

So because it is limited, you should get as much as possible, without thinking about all the others? Great way to build value and attract new users!

If you have one kilogram of gold then you can give 100 gr per 10 people, or 100 people per 10 gr etc.

The big difference is that when you give away gold, you don't have it yourself any more. Rewarding others with your votes doesn't cost you anything. And to make it more attractive, curation rewards have been raised by 100%! Still not enough for you to go out of your way.

And for the posts you feel are overrated: use your downvotes on them! That's what they are for!

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My entire family from Hong Kong , Philippines and USA is here because @dobartim inspired us to join and invest in steemit.
@pharesin please let me know how many people you inspire and how , to join or continue on steemit if you all are frantically downvoting everybody at will ?
Let make Steemit in America great again.
Let’s make steemit no 1 more than .20 cents at least :(

We Win Together

ONLY! Together

Vote or self vote is for active and not active.

Question is now!

Many members come and go.
Steemit is more and more empty due negative comnents and wrongful downvote judgments like yours.

Criteria for choice of vote is established by money or quality of post.
First: I think most of people choose money choice vs quality vote.
Second: lobby or not lobby! Does one needs to lobby whale in order to be protected and get favorable vote?
Third: the choice of quality or choice of money is subjective not objective any more
Fourth: plenty of fish in the sea . My opinion is vendeta of induvidual such as you to go downvote on subjective note is not helping steem to grow.
They say there is boss above boss.
That happens to all of us.
Be more objective

Why not answer the questions, why do you downvote?

This concept is only valid if we have posts that really have value, and I do not see it to be so and many of them are supported by the proof of brain concept only for the reasons of the lobby group and not for quality. It is not a problem to reward others, the problem is that there is no open dialogue and opinion here, if someone says what he thinks and it is not in line with the current policy of the house then you get downvotes. There are many downvotes here, for what you are saying is an idea but reality has nothing to do with that idea. When a parameter is created that is the same for everyone then everyone can believe in the concept of proof of brain until then this is just one demagogy about an idea that is not realistic, it all comes down to support from those who have money - Steem Power. On that principle, I like to vote for the people I love who I have introduced to Steem and who need support. If all this were honest, you would now support my post, you would not just comment, because the post is great. It opens one topic that is useful for everyone on the Steem blockchain. We cannot be a big social network on this principle, it all comes down to a limited number of people. In any case, your communication is better now, this is called constructive dialogue.

Yeah, I tried being constructive. Your answer shows that that falls on dead ears. You insist on doing what you have been doing all the time, so there's no way the downvotes will stop. I officially give up trying to make you understand.

You need to be realistic, give me answers on a realistic basis, give me a direction in which everyone gets at the deserved quality. I have a very good understanding of the idea, the idea is great, I am now talking about truth and reality that is not in line with the idea. How to handle it to really work, if you do it I am for equality and rewarding quality, for millions of new users.

Criteria must be clear.
Many variables and conditions should be simplified level by level because our rules, your rules my rules can not apply to all sort of levels the same way.
Objective way sorcially for the member at your level.you should know better to say as you and do as you say.

Maybe level one level two and variables rules for each levels minnows, dolphins, whales,
And than active not active....
Steem is lowest level value - we all lost money.
Or do you prefer to continue your way against few or all or work with all to lift steem higher?

The rules are easy:
You think something deserves more rewards, you upvote it.
You think something deserves less rewards, you downvote it.

Your retaliation downvotes are the only thing actually not included in these rules, you downvote people for exercising their rights to express their opinion about the rewards.

I write two posts a day and then get the minuses? And always from the same people, your followers, what's wrong with my poetry to get the minuses. Again, we come to the fact that it is all personal in nature and is not about quality.

You got downvotes for excessive self voting and collusion with your family and friends, which you still do not see as a problem.
And you got a lot more attention after blackmailing a small user who expressed his opinion that it's overrewarded. Don't play the victim now, you brought it on yourself, and it's up to you if it stops.

How many you upvoted , you have more steem than half of steemians minnows and dolphins combined.
Do you vote all of 1,009,000 users and members?

About 2000 in the last 30 days. And many many more in the last 3.5 years.

How many you upvoted , you have more steem than half of steemians minnows and dolphins combined.
Do you vote all of 1,009,000 users and members?

You act based on your steem power.
Why do you downvote few subjectively?

You act based on your steem power.
Why do you downvote few subjectively?

I agree that system must be regulated.
But when i see this post

https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@ranchorelaxo/help-create-a-clear-and-simple-tutorial-for-buying-bitcoin-or-cryptos-in-the-usa

I can see that haejin pharesim ranchorelaxo were friends on steemit and they voted and supported each other.
What happened . Now they are big oposite lobby and downvote each other.
That is why @dobartim is trying to keep all in good balance and keep good quality posts in trending

What you are doing now seems to be also personal in this community.

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When I upvote someone, that doesn't mean we're friends. That would mean I would have tens of thousands of friends on here.
I supported a new user, as I do a lot, and liked the idea of the post. Something you should try too!

Just saying it was good in the beggining and now it is good bad ugly as you said in your post.
Lets keep it good for better of steem value and find all solutions together.

Creating one downvote lobby on one side will provoke another lobby and it will make people to downpower and flood market with free floating steem .this will bring steem value down.
I hope this negative spiral downvote trand will get under control i am urging steem owners to step in soon.

It does wonders for pushing people and making change! Better than any substitute teacher with a red marking pen! lol

To be honest I still don't understand why You @pharesim downvote @dobartim ? Why ?
And why You downvote @slowwalker ? Why ?

He ruined Steemit policy? He insulted somebody ?
He voted for Himself, Oooh was that forbidden, in Your own posts You are not doing that ?

You see @dobartim is an example that motivated many to become part of Steemit, He gave so many rewards to so many people, taught so many how to work on Steemit & beside all miseries & fall downs of Steemit, He is still there promoting Steemit.

What I see is that only, I don't know how to call, person can do that...

It's about relations. When I write one or two post a week, I upvote those (mostly, not always). When I write more, I don't. When you write multiple daily just to upvote yourself, and receive upvotes from your circle, that's farming.

And when 75% of the rewards someone is able to distribute go to himself, friends and family, that person is not helping the community as a whole. Proof of Brain only works when you look outside of your circle, and support people you do not know personally.

If he really wanted to support the platform, he would stop giving upvotes for receiving upvotes, look out for the many new accounts that don't have any contacts, and support them without asking them to join his discord to become a part of his business.

I would say build seminars get some advanced members to keep seminars of system and downvote concepts and upvote ideat that you promote.
Otherwise it will be foggy solution and it may be received in bad grouping way one group against another. It looks like you want to help steemit but actions of your followers may take it in wrong direction.

Lets Make Steemit great again
Lets be objective more.