Yes, I love both! Rops was actually a part in the late romantic emancipation, where the introverted almost solipsist romanticism somehow needed these brutal transgressions. Worshipping the unnatural, as if such a thing existed...

The complete opposite of Shunga actually. The Japanese natural philosophy of connectedness and spirits that derives from Shinto. Think of the weird Hokusai print with an intercourse between a woman and an octopus. So very matter of fact.