You are viewing a single comment's thread from:

RE: Contra Ecclesia et Concilia Oecumenica - The church's error regarding metaphysics

in #philosophy5 years ago

The mosaic law was fulfilled in Jesus' death on the cross and his resurrection. There's no need for a priesthood to sacrifice animals for the sins of the people. The Jewish Law has passed away along with it's 613 separate rules.

The Evangelical Christian church doesn't get anything wrong when it comes spiritual truth.

You're wrong about hell. Soul death is a common heresy among the cults like the Jehovah's Witnesses. It's clear that people in hell are tormented forever.

(Luke 16:19-31 NIV) "There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. {20} At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores {21} and longing to eat what fell from the rich man's table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores. {22} "The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham's side. The rich man also died and was buried. {23} In hell, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. {24} So he called to him, 'Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.' {25} "But Abraham replied, 'Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. {26} And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.' {27} "He answered, 'Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my father's house, {28} for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.' {29} "Abraham replied, 'They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.' {30} "'No, father Abraham,' he said, 'but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.' {31} "He said to him, 'If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.'"

Sort:  

"The mosaic law was fulfilled in Jesus' death on the cross and his resurrection. There's no need for a priesthood to sacrifice animals for the sins of the people. The Jewish Law has passed away along with it's 613 separate rules."

Matthew 5:17-18 refutes this premise. Jesus said that not one jot or tittle shall come from the Law until earth and heaven pass, until all is fulfilled. Now we know that not all prophecy is fulfilled yet. We don't live in heaven, we're still in the sinful earth. Thus, the Mosaic Law still applies. It has not been "fulfilled" yet.

"The Evangelical Christian church doesn't get anything wrong when it comes spiritual truth."

Refuted already.

"You're wrong about hell. Soul death is a common heresy among the cults like the Jehovah's Witnesses. It's clear that people in hell are tormented forever."

Jehovah's Witnesses get just as much right as they get wrong so that they could be used as a strawman for anybody going against the church.

"(Luke 16:19-31 NIV)"

That's a parable, not a literal description of what happens when you die. We know this because hell/Gehenna comes after the Day of Resurrection, not right when you die. Moreover, the term for hell isn't Gehenna here. It's Hades, i.e. just death (this is what Jesus meant when he said to Peter that the Gates of Hades would not prevail against his church, that they will inherit eternal life).

I'm no Jehovah's Witness, but this article does good in refuting the presumption that Lazarus went to hell in Luke 16.

https://defendingjehovahswitnesses.blogspot.com/2013/08/luke-1619-31-parable-that-does-not.html